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I will take my test next 21st of June in Zurich.
My car will be a 2 years old car with 8000 km only.
Do you think I need to take it to a garage first?


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Strange! I thought new cars only get controlled after 4 years.
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Old 19.05.2016, 14:20
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Strange! I thought new cars only get controlled after 4 years.
And sometimes, 14 years.

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Old 19.05.2016, 14:24
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And sometimes, 14 years.

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And I thought I was lucky with 8!
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Re: Testing a Car (MFK)

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Dear All,

I will take my test next 21st of June in Zurich.
My car will be a 2 years old car with 8000 km only.
Do you think I need to take it to a garage first?


Claudio
Never take the car to the garage prior to the testing. MFK is the best test you can get
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Old 19.05.2016, 14:40
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And I thought I was lucky with 8!
I've also had 10, 9, and 8 a few times for subsequent (i.e. not first) tests.

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Re: Testing a Car (MFK)

Sorry, I didn't mention that I brought it from Italy.
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Sorry, I didn't mention that I brought it from Italy.
Is it modified in any way?
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No, no changes made..
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Old 19.05.2016, 18:37
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Re: Testing a Car (MFK)

General rule, take it to MFK, and they will tell you what you need, and then you go to a garage.

Just make sure that it's clean, and all the lights work.

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Re: Testing a Car (MFK)

Hi all.

So, I did my first MFK check last year about this time when I formally imported my car into Switzerland (had it for a few years beforehand on foreign plates since I was a student). The car itself is 9 years old VW Polo, and in relatively good condition. Where I lived before (abroad) periodic road worthiness checks had to be done every year, so I never really thought about it, I just went there every year. But from what I understand, here in Switzerland the test is done every few years (depending on how old the car is, every 2-5 years), and you get sent a letter by the Strassenverkehrsamt when your next check is due. Is this correct? Just checking because my internal yearly car check alarm clock is ringing...
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Old 02.09.2016, 14:25
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Hi all.

So, I did my first MFK check last year about this time when I formally imported my car into Switzerland (had it for a few years beforehand on foreign plates since I was a student). The car itself is 9 years old VW Polo, and in relatively good condition. Where I lived before (abroad) periodic road worthiness checks had to be done every year, so I never really thought about it, I just went there every year. But from what I understand, here in Switzerland the test is done every few years (depending on how old the car is, every 2-5 years), and you get sent a letter by the Strassenverkehrsamt when your next check is due. Is this correct? Just checking because my internal yearly car check alarm clock is ringing...
You will get invited, anything between 2-5 years being very normal, you can get lucky & wait much longer.
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Old 02.09.2016, 14:25
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Re: Testing a Car (MFK)

Yes.

Some cantons work like clockwork and will send you the invite every two years, others like broken clocks and may only invite you after 14 years.

(14 is my personal best, though I've also seen ten, nine, or seven, for example)

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Hi all.

So, I did my first MFK check last year about this time when I formally imported my car into Switzerland (had it for a few years beforehand on foreign plates since I was a student). The car itself is 9 years old VW Polo, and in relatively good condition. Where I lived before (abroad) periodic road worthiness checks had to be done every year, so I never really thought about it, I just went there every year. But from what I understand, here in Switzerland the test is done every few years (depending on how old the car is, every 2-5 years), and you get sent a letter by the Strassenverkehrsamt when your next check is due. Is this correct? Just checking because my internal yearly car check alarm clock is ringing...
Correct, they send you a notification when your car is due for a check (every 2nd year in your case). The notification is a couple of months in advance, this may vary from Canton to Canton. You have the opportunity to request a different appointment up to 1 month later than the time the invitation indicates, but you cannot do this the day before (can't remember the exact period, but I think it is written on the invitation). You can also request a check earlier in the cycle.

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Re: Testing a Car (MFK)

Just got the MFK notice in the post - with a date of less than 3 weeks from now.

Not too happy about that, as I thought it would be several months notice.

I know i've got some work to do on the beast - new struts, and a new drive axle due to a split cv boot. Also a stupid indicator light on the dash is on since I installed a radio some time ago, so i'll have to get that sorted as well because i've read it's a definite fail.

On top of these items, and the normal Swiss over-the-top engine cleaning and such, the notice says that the vehicle must be loaded to 75% of max payload/nutzlast. Is this usual?

It's a large van, max payload 1400kg. So somewhere I need to find over 1000kg of materials and have it loaded, unloaded, etc. just to be able to go for the MFK?

what a hassle!...

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anyone got one of these 1000l tanks that I can borrow?:



Or I may have to buy one off Ricardo and then resell or give it away. Anyone need one of these by chance?..

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Old 03.09.2016, 15:08
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Just got the MFK notice in the post - with a date of less than 3 weeks from now.

Not too happy about that, as I thought it would be several months notice.

I know i've got some work to do on the beast - new front shocks, and a new drive axle due to a split cv boot. Also a stupid indicator light on the dash is on since I installed a radio some time ago, so i'll have to get that sorted as well because i've read it's a definite fail.

On top of these items, and the normal Swiss over-the-top engine cleaning and such, the notice says that the vehicle must be loaded to 75% of max payload/nutzlast. Is this usual?

It's a large van, max payload 1400kg. So somewhere I need to find over 1000kg of materials and have it loaded, unloaded, etc. just to be able to go for the MFK?

what a hassle!...
With transport vans they expect the payload so that the suspension test is meaningful (no load would make it seem like the suspension has no give at all). Have a look around your area for a company that sells something like rubber conveyor belts or such, they may be willing to put a suitable roll of (scrap) material into the van for a contribution to the kafikasse.

Places that service trucks have weights specifically for this usage, if you get the work done at such a shop they may let you use the weights.

Otherwise, a cubic meter of water in large sized containers. Is there a place that rents festival equipment like tents near you? They sometimes have water containers on pallets.

iirc they will send you away if you show up empty, at least in Zurich.
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anyone got one of these 1000l tanks that I can borrow?:



Or I may have to buy one off Ricardo and then resell or give it away. Anyone need one of these by chance?..
Try calling, or better yet, going by the MFK station on Monday. They may have a list of places that rent them, or if yours is in an industrial area like many are, they may just point to some place and say "Go over there and ask them."

You can't have been the first person to have this problem.
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Re: Testing a Car (MFK)

no industry around here, but farms a'plenty-Ill have to ask around. They're only about CHF 50- used on ricardo, but I could do without the hassle.
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Re: Testing a Car (MFK)

I had the same question the first time I got my pickup truck tested. Couldn't get a straight answer as usual, so to be safe I went to the hornbach and loaded up 30 bags of cement, and then I returned the cement right after the test. That was slightly under what I needed but nobody ever really checked it. I'd say the van just needs to be loaded to roughly 75%. Doesn't need to be exact.
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Re: Testing a Car (MFK)

My car passed its MFK again this morning in Basel. Same formula as last time (see previous post).
This is despite no service in over two years, only an oil change. That said, it's only done about 20k since the last service (now has 150,000km).
Preparation: cleaned it inside and out (no engine wash, and no-one wants to sit in a dirty car) replaced the wipers and really cleaned the headlights, which are starting to discolour ( I thought that would be a failure).
It's a 12 year old diesel VW Bora. I am starting to see why there are so many mk 4 Golfs still on the streets, they seem to be pretty bulletproof, or at least still economical to maintain.
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MFK Experience - Failure - glass inside rear number plate light dirty so too dim!

Firstly I would like to thank all those with sanity who post about cars not professionally cleaned pre-mfk. There is some real advice given and despite thinking am I doing this correctly, decided to follow their advice.,,,,case of Swiss paranoia setting in swimming against the tide etc.

Youtube - a big help to learn a little more about engine cleaning and the underbody treatment of rust ( I have some spots on wheel arch and worried more may be underneath) as I am a bit outdated.

Vehicle - 16 year old Ford - under 200,000kms. Not in daily use and maintained "as required."

Tools For Job:
Garage with pressure washer and a car lift (token only so bring cash to operate or buy something cheap in the garage for change). Riedmatt / Spar - Oberglatterstrasse 35A, 8153 Rümlang.

Engine cleaner spray can, WD40 Silicon Spray can, 2 brushes (1 hard, 1 soft - usually use it for wheels), underbody rust spray, house plant sprayer, bottle of car wash/wax, kitchen roll. Total cost in purchases c.SFr35

Washing / Cleaning - Steps I took,
Tip: You pay to get the ramp up and whilst up you clean/spray. to save tokens I sent it up, sprayed everywhere with engine cleaner and then the plant sprayer. Run over the back of the wheels etc. with a brush - this gives time for the cleaners to get to work.

Cleaned car as normal .... with extra time spent pointing high pressure hose though wheeltrims to clean out brake dust and wheel arches.

Sent lift upwards - front to back high pressure hose - remembering not to spray at anywhere where water bounce may affect electrical. Back of wheels and suspension given attention. Use brush again around cabling or mechanicals, spray with engine cleaner and drop car down.

Engine Bay - All electrics good, no need to cover. Used plant spray with car polish and soft brush to loosen up dirt/oil deposits. Wiped down with kitchen towel, repeat process with engine cleaner, use small handgun water jet as provided for the bay to carefully wash off. Wipe clean with paper towels. Repeated process for underside of bonnet.

Then I sprayed the WD 40 silicon spray on all engine bay cables, top of the battery case and anywhere I thought it may help.

Next - get car up on ramp, wipe where you can with kitchen towel quickly, get spray off, again sprayed WD40 Silicon etc.

For rust spots on the sill,cleaned up with rust treatment and hard brush, felt no need to repaint, surface only but tidy after wiping. Something to do next car wash.

MFK Test - Regensdorf - Fiendly staff, one spoke English and took the keys, appointment letter and car document telling me to go and sit in the waiting area or stand to the side.

Tests on rolling road conducted, then into the testing bay proper to join a Corsa and new Seat Leon, all put on ramps and inspected. The jacking up of the front of the car whilst on the ramp had me worried. Then down, off the ramp for the light test ( I need to align a headlight).

The inspector took the car out of the bay and building, I went to the front of the building to watch them drive at speed and do a emergency brake.

All over in less than 30 minutes, two minor points of failure 1 being the only thing I did not clean the inside of!


I feel really pleased that I did not get sucked into the pre-MFK checks, nor the professional clean, plus would happily go back to Regensdorf for a future test.

Hence feeling the need to make such a long post of the experience.



One note to The Real Stig - Cannot do it for SFr20, total cost was closer to SFr 80 with purchases, car lift eats tokens but worth every SFr! I am also behind your timeline with just over 3 hours total but know if I did it again it would be a quicker time.
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