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Re: Testing a Car (MFK)

From Romania, so within the EU.
This is all very far away, I haven't even started work yet, I'm just considering if it would be a good idea to import, or to just drive it for 1y then buy a CH based car with the MFK already done.

The car was smashed in the front by the previous owner, and the front bumper and some other parts.

The car itself is not that old and I had no problems with it, so I was considering a visit to the brand dealer to replace all the aftermarket stuff.
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This is all very far away, I haven't even started work yet, I'm just considering if it would be a good idea to import, or to just drive it for 1y then buy a CH based car with the MFK already done.
You can not simply "just drive it". Do the proper process.

First step ist the customs. This one must be done at the time you cross the border with the vehicle.
https://www.ezv.admin.ch/ezv/en/home...ts--etc--.html

Second step, is to get Swiss plates. For this step you have up to one year after taking up residency/crossing the border.
See directive 1 https://asa.ch/it/biblioteca-online/direttive/
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Re: Testing a Car (MFK)

Getting it declared at customs is a given, no doubt about it.

For the second part, afaik as an EU national you have the right to drive your car up to 1 year. After that you need to convert the plates to Swiss versions which also involves an MFK test.

I'm not considering anything illegal as far as I know or immoral as far as I know. Please correct me if wrong
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Getting it declared at customs is a given, no doubt about it.
Perfect. If you had the car for more than 6 months prior your move this will also be the time you actually fully import the car.

Importing the car and getting the plates are two independent and mostly unrelated things. For example customs does not car if you get Swiss plates.
The only connection between importing the car and getting plates is that you can only get full Swiss plates after the car is fully imported. Otherwise you can only get special customs plates. An other option is do not get Swiss plates. But in this case you can not drive it on Swiss public roads nor park it on Swiss public parking places.

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For the second part, afaik as an EU national you have the right to drive your car up to 1 year. After that you need to convert the plates to Swiss versions which also involves an MFK test.
Nothing to do with being an EU national or any other nationality, including Swiss. It is simply due that you move your place of residence from abroad into Switzerland.

As said how long you can drive it on foreign plates will depend on when you take up residency and when you will bring in the car into Switzerland. As a rule of thumb you can only drive the car on foreign plates up to one year after taking up residence in Switzerland. After that you can drive it for only 1 month. The time resets when you and the car leave the country for at least 3 months.

A third thing and this time totally independent is the driving license. But the rules are similar. Exchange within one year of taking up residency and reset of the period when abroad for more than 3 months. You must exchange the license only if you wish to drive in Switzerland. There is no need to exchange if you do not drive here, and you can easily exchange up to five years after taking up residency. Be aware that you can drive a foreign registered car with a Swiss driving license, but also Swiss registered car with a foreign license. Given the license is valid, the cars customs status is in order, and the license plate are correct.

Example 1 (Car comes later): You come here in January 1st and you bring the car in September you must switch plates (or no longer use and park the car on public roads) before the new year. You should also exchange the driving license before the new year or it will be void in Switzerland.

Example 2 (Car comes much later): You come here in January 1st and you bring the car on December 15th you must switch plates (or no longer use and park the car on public roads) before January 15th of the next year. You should exchange the driving license before the new year or it will be void in Switzerland.

The directive #1 has more examples.

Do not forget to list the car on the initial Form 18.44, this makes live simpler. Especially if you import the car at a later date. (Also list on the Form 18.44 any other stuff which you might import at a later date.)
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Re: Testing a Car (MFK)

Question about cleaning the car...

I have the test this coming friday, and the car and engine are already clean. But I need to drive it to the test site on wet winter roads. Do I really need to try to clean it again just before the test? Not sure where I would do such a thing this time of year.

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Question about cleaning the car...

I have the test this coming friday, and the car and engine are already clean. But I need to drive it to the test site on wet winter roads. Do I really need to try to clean it again just before the test? Not sure where I would do such a thing this time of year.

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No, they just don't want the underside of the car caked in oil/mud. I have been with snow on the road.
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Re: Testing a Car (MFK)

I can also confirm that you don't have to clean your car fresh. I had my car inspection this morning and my car still had some snow on it (cleaned it yesterday evening). This was absolutely no problem. The test was in Regensdorf, ZH.

Some things to keep in mind, which I did not know:
- You're not allowed to have air fresheners attached to your rear view mirror (i had a Wunder-baum tree)
- You're not allowed to have too many/old vignettes attached to your windshield. I had 3, the swiss one and 2 from Austria from a trip I did a few weeks ago.

These are, of course, no reason to fail the MFK, but they write these down and you have to sign that you will address them.
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Question about cleaning the car...

I have the test this coming friday, and the car and engine are already clean. But I need to drive it to the test site on wet winter roads. Do I really need to try to clean it again just before the test? Not sure where I would do such a thing this time of year.

Thanks.
Make sure you blow dry it after cleaning.
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This car-cleaning for the MFK thing is fast gaining dishwasher tablet status. Soon it will be up there with flushing the toilet after 10 pm.
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that fails an mkf now too ????
Not if you bring free beer for the inspectors.
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Re: Testing a Car (MFK)

I had the air freshener thing last time. So silly. Also your GPS/phone holder can't be attached to the windscreen.

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I can also confirm that you don't have to clean your car fresh. I had my car inspection this morning and my car still had some snow on it (cleaned it yesterday evening). This was absolutely no problem. The test was in Regensdorf, ZH.

Some things to keep in mind, which I did not know:
- You're not allowed to have air fresheners attached to your rear view mirror (i had a Wunder-baum tree)
- You're not allowed to have too many/old vignettes attached to your windshield. I had 3, the swiss one and 2 from Austria from a trip I did a few weeks ago.

These are, of course, no reason to fail the MFK, but they write these down and you have to sign that you will address them.
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Make sure you blow dry it after cleaning.
Actually, if the car is older than about 10 years, yes. After power washing the engine bay you need to pull the connectors, and blow any moisture out, then give each a shot of WD40 or contact cleaner, then refit.

I skipped this in the fall after I prepped the car for it's MFK, I just blew any water left over in the engine bay off with compressed air, thinking that the seals were all still intact.

About 5 days later it started showing the check engine light, which is a fail. Sure enough, the intake air temp plug had a bit of corrosion in it.
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Re: Testing a Car (MFK)

Hi Everyone,

I've a couple of questions after reading this (I'm not a car expert).
My car (Audi A3) is 5 years old. I regularly service it at AMAG and it's always in a garage (I don't park it on the road).
  1. If I understand it correctly, the invitation letter mentions something about inspection plates. Where do I get those?
  2. For winter, I've different rims (not the same brand as the car) and wheels compared to when I bought the car. They are within the allowed parameters. Do I still have to revert the car to summer ties?
  3. I've had the car going through service in September. Is an engine cleaning required, or washing the car in a car washing station would be enough?

Thanks in advance for your reply!
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[*]If I understand it correctly, the invitation letter mentions something about inspection plates.
You don't understand it correctly.

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Re: Testing a Car (MFK)

Thanks Tom, I'm glad I don't.
This is what it says "das Fahrzeug muss mit Kontrollschildern versehen sein.". I guess those are the normal plates?
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Yes.

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Thanks Tom, I'm glad I don't.
This is what it says "das Fahrzeug muss mit Kontrollschildern versehen sein.". I guess those are the normal plates?
Car must have license plates (and insured).
This can be normal license plates, garage license plates, or temp/day license plates.

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For winter, I've different rims (not the same brand as the car) and wheels compared to when I bought the car. They are within the allowed parameters. Do I still have to revert the car to summer ties?
Not, if they are within spec. Specially, same offset, same width, same diameter, same material, same hole pattern. Check where on the rims the dimension are imprinted. It should be visible w/o removing the wheel.
You may get a TARGA-Tyre extract which will list the official permitted rim dimension for your car. You can get it from a tyre dealer. You will need the type approval number of the car (Item 24 in the gray card).
If your rim dimension does not match the one listed on the TARGA-Tyre document you will need an official approval papers for the rims (available from seller or importer of the rims) to use the rims on the car. If they question the rims you point to the dimension on the rims and on the dimension listed on the TARGA-Tyre (or show them the approval paper).

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I've had the car going through service in September. Is an engine cleaning required, or washing the car in a car washing station would be enough?
Might be enough, to put it once or twice through the car wash with underfloor option. Also open the engine bay and clean it with a towel.
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Re: Testing a Car (MFK)

What if a car has no valid MFK and licenseplate? Will police issue me an one day licenseplate or the car has to be transported there?
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Hi Everyone,

I've a couple of questions after reading this (I'm not a car expert).
My car (Audi A3) is 5 years old. I regularly service it at AMAG and it's always in a garage (I don't park it on the road).
  1. If I understand it correctly, the invitation letter mentions something about inspection plates. Where do I get those?
  2. For winter, I've different rims (not the same brand as the car) and wheels compared to when I bought the car. They are within the allowed parameters. Do I still have to revert the car to summer ties?
  3. I've had the car going through service in September. Is an engine cleaning required, or washing the car in a car washing station would be enough?

Thanks in advance for your reply!

My car is from 2001 and I've never cleaned the engine other than wiping the top down. The inspectors will be looking for oil leaks. On the underside they'll be looking for oil leaks, rust and deterioration of brake lines etc so it needs to be clean enough for them to be able to see. My first MFK I had to go home and wipe down the rubber brake lines.

If you wipe down the wheels while you're in the queue for the MFK it gives a good impression to the inspectors :-)
 

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