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Disclosing a fault - trading in my car

Hi folks,

I need to replace my car and will probably have to trade it in because it has a fault and will not pass its next emissions test.

Am I obliged to tell the dealer about it? or can I just hand it over as seen with no guarantee?

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Old 02.04.2013, 14:23
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Re: Disclosing a fault - trading in my car

Do you know of a specific fault or just have a "feeling"?

If it's just something that doesn't feel right, then I reckon you can keep quiet with no guilt. But a savvy dealer will probably spot it and bet down your price.

If it's flaky brakes that are likely to have someone's eye out, then it's probably worth a mention.
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Old 02.04.2013, 14:26
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Re: Disclosing a fault - trading in my car

It's a matter of the buyer beware, car dealers can't be ripped off if you tried.
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Re: Disclosing a fault - trading in my car

"it has a fault and will not pass its next emissions test"

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If it's flaky brakes that are likely to have someone's eye out, then it's probably worth a mention.
Brakes effect emissions? I never knew that!

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Brakes effect emissions? I never knew that!
Well, if it's emitting shards of brake disc...
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Hi folks,

I need to replace my car and will probably have to trade it in because it has a fault and will not pass its next emissions test.

Am I obliged to tell the dealer about it? or can I just hand it over as seen with no guarantee?

Bruster
Car dealers can get cars fixed a lot cheaper than you can.

When we traded ours in, we knew it probably needed a few items replaced as part of its next service but then that was one of the reasons why we traded it in rather than get it fixed.

We didn't tell the garage. They didn't ask and was happy with a cursory check of the car.
It's not going to cost him much to get fixed compared with what it would have cost us.
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Re: Disclosing a fault - trading in my car

Under Swiss law an item must be in reasonable condition, and to hide a known fault, like maybe worn piston rings resulting in burning oil, might result in the dealer having recourse, ie asking for his money back!

On the sales contract you write "As seen, tried and tested"

There are many small dealers that will buy cars for export, but these days they usually require a valid test certificate, as African countries are refusing to import dangerous car wrecks.
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Hi folks,

I need to replace my car and will probably have to trade it in because it has a fault and will not pass its next emissions test.

Am I obliged to tell the dealer about it? or can I just hand it over as seen with no guarantee?

Bruster
In my experience emissions is (are?) something pretty well any dealer will check before trade-in. A new cat is pretty pricy. Unless the car is so old he's only taking it as a goodwill thing anyway.
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It's a matter of the buyer beware, car dealers can't be ripped off if you tried.
Not to mention that ripping off a 'used car salesman' is a kind of "Double negative".

If you are successful, you'll probably feel good about yourself.

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In my experience emissions is (are?) something pretty well any dealer will check before trade-in. A new cat is pretty pricy. Unless the car is so old he's only taking it as a goodwill thing anyway.
Well I traded in my BMW last week with 345,000, the MFK was done last September with a handbrake shoes worn down to metal. I just tightened them up enough to pass the test! I was hardly going to mention it or countless other little things was I now!

If the dealer wants to reverse the deal, then thats fine, he won't as his profit is in the car he sold. Strangely enough I paid about 50% of the asking price of a car I bid on here last year & received loads of abuse.
http://www.englishforum.ch/items-sal...ut-prices.html
I can't believe the dealer paid more than 3k!

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