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UK police at my door for swiss offence!

Help!

Last night i had a police officer turn up at my house who was sent from the home office to ask me to come in for a recorded statement.
It back in nov 2011 and i'd heard nothing about it until now.
They have a very clear photo of me, and i was driving far too fast. 40km over on an autobahn. bad and stupid.

I have no income and still live at home. So will I have to go to prison!?

any help would be appreciated

yes i was driving too fast, my fault, no one elses.
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Old 16.05.2013, 10:42
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Re: UK police at my door for swiss offence!

If can afford to drive a car capable of exceeding the speed limit by 40kph and afford to get it to Switzerland and back, surely you can scrape together the fine???
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Re: UK police at my door for swiss offence!

I dont know yet what the fine is!

It was my boyfriends car, not mine.
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Re: UK police at my door for swiss offence!

not exactly filling me with much hope lol!
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Re: UK police at my door for swiss offence!

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I have no income and still live at home.
Start saving.
You're lucky - you will probably be treated to the "old" rules.
New regulations came into place in 2013 - you'd pay significantly more now.

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So will I have to go to prison!?
Somebody else has to answer this.
If you can't pay a fine, do you have to go to prison, too in the UK?
It's the case in Germany and Switzerland...
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not exactly filling me with much hope lol!
Speak to a lawyer. On a forum you will get 10 different answers and potentially all of them wrong.
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Re: UK police at my door for swiss offence!

I cant seem to find one in the UK that understand the swiss laws.
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Re: UK police at my door for swiss offence!

Of course you won't be imprisoned.

You will have to pay the fine (very hefty) plus a whole lot more costs on top (guessing, up to £1,500 extra) for court, police and general "Swiss bureaucracy inconvenience" fees. So this will hurt your hip pocket but you'll still walk the streets a free woman.

If you ever want to enter Switzerland again, I'd pay up.
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Re: UK police at my door for swiss offence!

so if i don't ever come to Switzerland again, i may get away with not paying?
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Re: UK police at my door for swiss offence!

So, what you are indirectly telling us is that if you move to the UK with an unresolved offence according to the Swiss system, the UK police will follow it up?

Interesting concept. Thank you for sharing.
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Re: UK police at my door for swiss offence!

The fine will normally be quite expensive, but as you have no income you might get a small fine and a few months driving ban.

How do speeding fines work in Switzerland? <-- these are fines etc. under the old rules which will apply to you.

Best to keep away from Switzerland for a while: the border control guards have a nasty habit of asking for the fine when you arrive.

I imagine the police went first to the owner of the car, and they were given your name and address.
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It was my boyfriends car, not mine.
Mmmmm ....... current or ex?
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Old 16.05.2013, 11:08
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Re: UK police at my door for swiss offence!

What people have not mentioned is that UK does not have an agreement with CH in regard to road traffic offences - the last time i checked.

There have been other cases where the HO has had a request and UK plod has made a visit to the suspect and requested the person attends an interview - NOTE " requested" not REQUIRED... When told NO the whole thing died.

I can not stress the next subject strongly enough... NEVER ATTEND A VOLUNTARY INTERVIEW WITHOUT A LAWYER!!! EDIT: NEVER ATTEND A VOLUNTARY INTERVIEW.

FIRST POINT OF CALL : PEPIPOO.COM ENTER THIS SECTION OF THE FORUM, REGISTER AND EXPLAIN IN FULL DETAIL.

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=5

Wait for some replies and go from there.. there are legally trained advisors on the site with far more knowledge than the "pay it" screamers on this site.

Also remember there is a statute of limitations on the validity of the offence, it was 3 or 5 years i cant remember which but someone on this site has a similar situation and provided some very good links on the subject.
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Old 16.05.2013, 11:13
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What people have not mentioned is that UK does not have an agreement with CH in regard to road traffic offences - the last time i checked.

There have been other cases where the HO has had a request and UK plod has made a visit to the suspect and requested the person attends an interview - NOTE " requested" not REQUIRED... When told NO the whole thing died.

I can not stress the next subject strongly enough... NEVER ATTEND A VOLUNTARY INTERVIEW WITHOUT A LAWYER!!!

FIRST POINT OF CALL : PEPIPOO.COM ENTER THIS SECTION OF THE FORUM, REGISTER AND EXPLAIN IN FULL DETAIL.

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=5

Wait for some replies and go from there.. there are legally trained advisors on the site with far more knowledge than the "pay it" screamers on this site.
Agreed, get a lawyer- you're dealing with bureaucracy in two countries apparently now.

Also, from a moral/ethical standpoint, I would pay the fine. If you did it and you got caught, this seems the right thing to do. I would probably contest any late fees on the grounds that it was the Swiss authorities that took so long forwarding this fine to you.

Next time don't wear the "heavy shoes" when you're driving.
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Re: UK police at my door for swiss offence!

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You will have to pay the fine (very hefty) plus a whole lot more costs on top (guessing, up to £1,500 extra) for court, police and general "Swiss bureaucracy inconvenience" fees. So this will hurt your hip pocket but you'll still walk the streets a free woman.

If you ever want to enter Switzerland again, I'd pay up.
How do you come to the conclusion? In most European countries is it pretty normal that people who cannot or do not want to pay a fine can decide to go to jail instead...

Here is an article how over 1000 of those per day in one German state alone costs the tax payers many millions instead of bringing in the money of the fine. The article is in German and I won't translate all of it, but the words of a poor retired guy who decides to go to jail for a day even for 5 EUR charges: "the building is new, the washrooms are great and you can choose from seven different types of bread for breakfast! On top of that do I always meet interesting people there"...
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justi...-a-894456.html
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How do you come to the conclusion? In most European countries is it pretty normal that people who cannot or do not want to pay a fine can decide to go to jail instead...

Here is an article how over 1000 of those per day in one German state alone costs the tax payers many millions instead of bringing in the money of the fine. The article is in German and I won't translate all of it, but the words of a poor retired guy who decides to go to jail for a day even for 5 EUR charges: "the building is new, the washrooms are great and you can choose from seven different types of bread for breakfast! On top of that do I always meet interesting people there"...
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justi...-a-894456.html
That's not prison... it shouldn't be that comfortable... That is like sending the kid to timeout in the playroom...
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The fine will normally be quite expensive, but as you have no income you might get a small fine and a few months driving ban.

How do speeding fines work in Switzerland? <-- these are fines etc. under the old rules which will apply to you.

Best to keep away from Switzerland for a while: the border control guards have a nasty habit of asking for the fine when you arrive.

I imagine the police went first to the owner of the car, and they were given your name and address.
I have never heard of a reciprocal driving ban being applied in another country so that is a moot point.
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I have never heard of a reciprocal driving ban being applied in another country so that is a moot point.
It wouldn't be reciprocal, simply a ban from driving in CH, AFAIK.
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