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Old 24.01.2008, 12:08
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Pet-friendly Airline Tip for Flying to/from CH

The airline AirBerlin (http://www.airberlin.com/) flies dogs @ 30,- Euros per crate across Europe, this is a flat rate for all flights.

For flights over 3000 miles the fee is 60,- Euros.

Since EasyJet doesn't take pets and Swiss/LH prices for transport are beyond extortionate I thought I'd post this...

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Old 28.01.2008, 20:41
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Re: Pet-friendly Airline Tip for Flying to/from CH

And for those flying a bit further afield, United will take smaller dogs as 'excess baggage' rather than cargo. For me, this meant $140 for Aus to US instead of $2,000. Also had a good experience with Delta on US to CH flight - only about $200.
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Old 28.01.2008, 21:11
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Re: Pet-friendly Airline Tip for Flying to/from CH

Swiss also takes dogs in the cabin as excess baggage. There is a price per kilo which I can't remember what it is now. (I think CHF70).

$2,000??? For what? dogs traveling in cargo?
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Re: Pet-friendly Airline Tip for Flying to/from CH

My uncle Bertrand had encountered so much difficulty exporting his rare Alpine River Squirrels by the usual means that he sought an unusual, and possibly illegal, means of transporting them across Europe and beyond.

He was a stringy kind of fellow, wiry as an acrobat, with a concave abdomen which he had acquired during a somewhat hairy encounter with an Afghan Shark on one of his squirrel hunting expeditions in the upper Oxus. While his injuries had made him more than a little unattractive to ladies of discernment (not to mention his appalling breath, the result of a long habit of eating a thousand-year egg every afternoon for breakfast), they finally revealed themselves to be an unexpected blessing, when devious means of transporting his squirrels were required.

My uncle Bertrand wrote to a friend of his, skilled in carpentry, with a special interest in the creation of prosthetic body parts. Together they came up with a design for an enormous, distended belly, made of balsa wood coated in tar and budgerigar fur, which would fit snugly over his sorry remains of an abdomen, and provide a comfortable home for his squirrels during their long journeys to their new masters. To prevent the outbreak of boils, the edges of the prosthetic belly were smeared with petroleum jelly, and the whole device secured by a number of soft suede straps. It was a fine, fine object, almost worthy of inclusion in one of those fancy design museums in Basel or somewhere, and my uncle Bertrand was very proud indeed.

And so the time came for my uncle Bertrand to make use of his belly for the first time. He booked a short flight to Dublin from his home in Rockall, loaded the squirrels into his belly, strapped it on, sealed it up, and set off for squirrel-smuggling fame and glory.

Alas, he forgot to pack nuts. The squirrels, driven ravenous by their exposure to high altitudes and lack of nutty sustenance, began to gnaw away at what remained at my uncle Bertrand's real belly. Eventually they emerged out the back of his aeroplane seat, to the surprise and horror of everyone of board, not least my uncle Bertrand, whose insides were now all missing, nibbled away by his toothy contraband.

By some miracle, my uncle Bertrand survived long enough to explain what had happened to the Gardai in Dublin, who would have arrested him, had they not been so incapacitated by laughter. The squirrels went on to enjoy happy and prosperous lives as personal assistants to Eamon de Valera.

I would, therefore, heartily recommend IQ_QI and Michellelh's suggestions above. Especially if you wish to transport squirrels, and are prone to forgetting your nuts.
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Old 28.01.2008, 21:16
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Re: Pet-friendly Airline Tip for Flying to/from CH

Qantas wanted $2,000 to transport dog & crate (under 20kg total). It was actually a really helpful guy in the Quarantine service who hooked me up with United.
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Old 28.01.2008, 21:55
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Qantas wanted $2,000 to transport dog & crate (under 20kg total). It was actually a really helpful guy in the Quarantine service who hooked me up with United.
$2,000: That's crazy talk!!

But, I'm a tiny bit confused: Do you mean in hold or in the cabin? Does United consider the dog excess bag in the hold as well?

My dog goes with me as excess baggage in the cabin.
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Old 29.01.2008, 00:11
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Re: Pet-friendly Airline Tip for Flying to/from CH

I know exactly what you're talking about when you're speaking about extortionate rates....I've been quoted 500 to bring one cat to Zurich with BA! I'm going to go with another company which is ONLY 400. Unfortunately I couldn't use your tip....I'm in Aberdeen, and I'd spend as much getting me and him down there that it just wouldn't be worth it.
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Re: Pet-friendly Airline Tip for Flying to/from CH

In my experience, it's pretty uncommon for airlines to allow dogs in the cabin on international flights outside of Europe - Air Canada is one of the few others I've seen. The Qantas cost was for the dog to be in the climate controlled cargo area, as was the United cost. Same part of the plane, same sort of treatment. Maxxi is only a small dog, but she's just a little too big to be in the cabin comfortably, so she's better off down below.

I was dealing with a flight into the US where there was virtually no paperwork required and no visual inspection of the dog on arrival. Had it been a flight coming into Australia - a whole different story, and I probably would have paid the money to have the Qantas folks deal with the dog - they just seem to be better informed about the quarantine laws etc.

I was lucky to have a great contact help me with all the paperwork so I was confident enough to transport Maxxi without using a pet transport/export service, but would certainly recommend going down that path if you're unsure or just don't have the time (with the two million other things going on before a big move) to read all the fine print.

Coming into Switzerland this time I flew Delta (to get a direct flight into Zurich) and although their cabin service was average, they were great in dealing with the dog - I was informed when she was loaded onto the plane, got updates during the flight and told exactly where her crate would be upon arrival.
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Re: Pet-friendly Airline Tip for Flying to/from CH

FYI: Spoke with AirBerlin about flights from the UK and they can't take dogs out of England

BUT Brussels Airlines does, for 70 GBP from London Gatwick (or Heathrow) via Brussels.

With all airlines make extra extra sure they have a space in the hold available for your dog BEFORE you book your ticket - otherwise you may be stuck with a non-refundable flight and no transportation for your dog!

It's also a good idea to request a confirmation of your dog's booking. Some airlines email you this and some don't, so request it as written proof that a space has been reserved for your dog.

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Old 30.01.2008, 11:21
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Re: Pet-friendly Airline Tip for Flying to/from CH

Lufthansa will carry cats and small dogs in the cabin.(They'll even offer you a free animal carton at the check-in desk!) I'm just waiting for them to confirm that they will take me and Oscar on a flight from Edinburgh to Zurich...with a stop at Frankfurt. If he's in the cabin it should just be a normal transfer with no problems, if he's in the hold as excess baggage, then he'll have to stay for 4hrs before he gets on the next trip. Who said travelling with animals would be easy......or cheap!
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Re: Pet-friendly Airline Tip for Flying to/from CH

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Are you a writer Dougal? More of the same please
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Nah, just a terrible procrastinator...!

I'll see what I can do, though... more Uncle Bertrand stories?
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Old 30.01.2008, 12:27
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Lufthansa will carry cats and small dogs in the cabin.(They'll even offer you a free animal carton at the check-in desk!) I'm just waiting for them to confirm that they will take me and Oscar on a flight from Edinburgh to Zurich...with a stop at Frankfurt. If he's in the cabin it should just be a normal transfer with no problems, if he's in the hold as excess baggage, then he'll have to stay for 4hrs before he gets on the next trip. Who said travelling with animals would be easy......or cheap!
We were quoted 750,- Euros (!) for a 45kg dog within Europe by Lufthansa... farking insane if you ask me, and they must be losing business since everyone is pretty much forced to divert to other airlines offering better service...

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Related to Spike Milligan then? I think you should start an Uncle Bertrand thread....
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Old 30.01.2008, 12:40
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Re: Pet-friendly Airline Tip for Flying to/from CH

As I was getting all confused about this issue... anyway, I called Swiss. I couldn't ask every scenario but this is what I got:

Swiss allows dogs to travel in cabin, as do most continental airlines. The fee is per kilo within Europe and it changes per zone. So, if I were flying to Lisbon or Munich the fee for the dog per kilo would be different.
from Switzerland to the US, it's a flat fee of CHF200. In cabin weight limit is 8 kilos including the bag/carrier.

Now, when you start taking about UK/Australia/NZ and some other Asian countries things get more complicated due to quarantines and other restrictions to animal transport.

Uk/Australia do not allow dogs to travel in the cabin at all, in or out. So the dog must travel in cargo & then the prices sky rocket unless (like was suggested with United) the carrier allows the pets to travel as "excess baggage" in the hold as opposed to "cargo".

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Re: Pet-friendly Airline Tip for Flying to/from CH

question.. has anyone ran into this new tax on animals traveling? i was charged like 100chf at the airport by the inspections guy. he was nice about it and pointed it out in a document.

also i found that the charge one way is not the same as the way back. as in my dog cost 80chf to go from the US to switzerland, but 140 the way back. -(swiss air) also they changed the price after i paid for the ticket and charged me the extra amount when i arrived at the airport. anyone have a similar problems?

just to say 140chf is still a good deal to me... just wondering what the policies were.
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Re: Pet-friendly Airline Tip for Flying to/from CH

we paid about 750 GBP to bring our dog from UK to CH, that included "custom built crate" transported by a man and a van from Yorkshire to Heathrow and the flight......when we got the airway bill from the company that booked it all, the flight had only been about 250GBP (with BA), 75 for the crate, 200 for taking him to Heathrow (it did take the guy about 8 hours round trip) and the pet transport company a great big 225 for just booking it (not bad for a couple of phone calls!!!) Having said that dog arrived well adn we didn't get charged anything at Basel airport.
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we paid about 750 GBP to bring our dog from UK to CH, that included "custom built crate" transported by a man and a van from Yorkshire to Heathrow and the flight......when we got the airway bill from the company that booked it all, the flight had only been about 250GBP (with BA), 75 for the crate, 200 for taking him to Heathrow (it did take the guy about 8 hours round trip) and the pet transport company a great big 225 for just booking it (not bad for a couple of phone calls!!!) Having said that dog arrived well adn we didn't get charged anything at Basel airport.
wow thats too much.. when it costed me only 80 from california to switzerland. why would you need a special crate? they make crates in all sizes, even the large chain pet stores in the UK have them.
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Re: Pet-friendly Airline Tip for Flying to/from CH

Oscar and I have just come over from Edinburgh with Lufthansa on what must be one of the most stress-free journeys, contrary to what I was expecting! We had no hassle at all at either Edinburgh,Franfurt (our transfer airport) or Zurich. Believe it or not, after all the trouble of getting his passport, rabies jab and 'fit to fly' certificate, not one person asked to see them. In fact I wasn't even charged for him travelling.....Edinburgh omitted to add the charge (7 per kilo), I think they were more amused at the thought of a cat travelling in the cabin with me.
He seemed to have a good journey, even though he was on the floor at my feet. I think the heat knocked him out! All in all it wasn't the nightmare journey I was expecting, and a lot cheaper to travel than I expected. For anyone thinking of bringing their cat/small dog over to CH, then so long as it (and its box) weigh less than 8kg (in fact Oscar weighed in at 8.4 kg and no-one said a thing) try getting on a Lufthansa flight.
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Re: Pet-friendly Airline Tip for Flying to/from CH

Semi-related question... has anyone taken a cat from San Francisco to Zurich? My cat has never flown before, and it's a long trip, so I'm a bit worried about this.

The airlines I've found that take cabin pets on this route are Lufthansa, Northwest, Swiss, and United. (Does anyone know of others?)

I'm wondering if it's better to fly SFO to Munich (11 hours + short flight to ZRH) or to make a stop in the US to break up the trip more evenly.

If I give my cat acepromazine, is he likely to be able to sleep for most of that 11 hour flight? That would be ideal.

Any experiences would be appreciated.
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