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Speeding Ticket in Ticino.. What am I looking at :-(

Today I believe I got a speeding ticket on the freeway going 122km in a 100km zone. Saw the camera flash and looked down and my speed and was like Dohh!!

This is my first ticket so does anyone have any idea how much this will cost me and if there is any suspensions involved. Thanks for the help.
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Re: Speeding Ticket in Ticino.. What am I looking at :-(

Your not the first to speed in Switzerland. Have you thought about searching the Forum? http://www.englishforum.ch/search2.php?q=speeding-fines
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This is my first ticket so does anyone have any idea how much this will cost me and if there is any suspensions involved. Thanks for the help.
If you were on a freeway in a 100 zone and your speedo read 122 then you're probably looking at a CHF 180 fine depending on the measurement tolerance and the accuracy of your speedo. No suspension, just make sure you pay within 30 days and nobody will care anymore.

Also have a look at this post for an overview.
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Re: Speeding Ticket in Ticino.. What am I looking at :-(

Thanks for the reply.. Maybe you can answer this for me then. I says it will be a fine + based on my income. What exactly does that mean or am I not even in that catagory? It worries me because I have a pretty high monthly income :-(

Also what is a tolerance deduction?

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Re: Speeding Ticket in Ticino.. What am I looking at :-(

Don't be an ass.

Just cough up the carrots.
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Thanks for the reply.. Maybe you can answer this for me then. I says it will be a fine + based on my income. What exactly does that mean or am I not even in that catagory? It worries me because I have a pretty high monthly income :-(

Also what is a tolerance deduction?

Thanks for all of the help.
So why bother about wondering what the cost will be, just pay it from your mega buck salary

I mean do we really need to know you have a big salary ?
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Also have a look at this post for an overview.
I think that table is out-of-date for the bigger fines (which this isn't, I know) - from 2013, the fines for high speeding got much more severe.

The comparison table is here:



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Thanks for the reply.. Maybe you can answer this for me then. I says it will be a fine + based on my income. What exactly does that mean or am I not even in that catagory? It worries me because I have a pretty high monthly income :-(
Why does it make you "more" worried? The point is that the fine should hurt equally, no matter what income you have. It's to stop richer people flouting the rules and writing the fines of as a minor expense.

To be honest, losing 10 days income probably still hurts a low income family more than a high earner, given the lower savings and disposable income.

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Also what is a tolerance deduction?
The speed cameras' readings are subject to small errors, so you don't pay a fine for excess speed which can be put down to this error.

The formula is roughly: excess speed = clocked speed - speed limit - (10%*speed limit)

So if you're clocked at 56 in a 50, the camera may have overread your speed by 5 (10% of the speed) - so you only pay a fine for being 56 - 50 - 5 = 1 km/h over.
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Re: Speeding Ticket in Ticino.. What am I looking at :-(

Wow some of you guys are just A-holes.. Thanks to the people who have not been.

I am not flaunting my salary, otherwise I would have posted it. A high bill is a high bill no matter what your income. You don't know me, my situation dependents, etc.. So blow me.

Also the rule is a joke, just another way to extort money out of people from this country. Why should I have to pay more then a lesser earner for the same infraction? Answer I shouldn't speeding is speeding no matter your economic status.

Like I said to the people that helped Thanks to the haters.. Keep on hating.
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Re: Speeding Ticket in Ticino.. What am I looking at :-(

Interpreting what a "high bill" is depends on what you earn. Some people can afford to pay a couple of hundred here and there and think of it as just a nuisance fly, so they become arrogant and complacent and generally take the p1ss out of the system.

The authorities are a little sneaky by pretty much hiding the cameras, or moving them around regularly, but that's the point isn't it? To deter drivers from speeding, or catch them "at it".

You can view it as a tax, but it's a tax you can easily avoid. Unfortunately, that's rules we all have to play by, like it or not. I guess it comes down to history, where a minor few have dictated the fate of the majority.

Speeding in the UK usually ends up with points on your licence. This in turn usually ends up pushing your insurance premium up too. Enough of them and you loose your licence. At least here you have some leeway of being able to pay you way out (up to a point, no pun intended).
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Re: Speeding Ticket in Ticino.. What am I looking at :-(

I completely agree with you and I am not arguing the fact that I was speeding.. I just think that raping I mean billing some one based on there income is ridiculous and just another way to shake down people for money.

You want to hear fair? Bill everyone the same for the same infraction and then base it off of how many infractions you have like most countries.

I just can't get over the system here. You go to university work hard in your field and because of that get a high earning salary. So because of that I get billed more then someone else that earns less but gave less in regards to ambition and school,etc. that's bullshit and everyone of you know it.
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I completely agree with you and I am not arguing the fact that I was speeding.. I just think that raping I mean billing some one based on there income is ridiculous and just another way to shake down people for money.

You want to hear fair? Bill everyone the same for the same infraction and then base it off of how many infractions you have like most countries.

I just can't get over the system here. You go to university work hard in your field and because of that get a high earning salary. So because of that I get billed more then someone else that earns less but gave less in regards to ambition and school,etc. that's bullshit and everyone of you know it.
fair means that you don't get a ticket if you are not speeding
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Re: Speeding Ticket in Ticino.. What am I looking at :-(

you sound funny.

The fine based on your salary is a great idea since the difference between the lowest and the highest income in this country is just enormous!
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Re: Speeding Ticket in Ticino.. What am I looking at :-(

Listen to yourself man.. You sound ridiculous!

Just because I make more I pay more? Ha I expect that with taxes not a dam speeding ticket!
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Also the rule is a joke, just another way to extort money out of people from this country. Why should I have to pay more then a lesser earner for the same infraction?
Because the people who make the law, and those who voted for those law makers don't agree with you. Because that's the law you've voluntarily chosen to abide by, by choosing to live here.

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.I just think that raping I mean billing some one based on there income is ridiculous....
Not as ridiculous as you sound. Grow up.

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Also the rule is a joke, just another way to extort money out of people from this country.
I agree with you that many rules regarding speeding as well as many speed limits are an utter joke here, but it's the law! I.e. you either deal with it or you try to change it if you happen to be a Swiss citizen, e.g. by signing this initiative for reasonable speed limits for a start.
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Re: Speeding Ticket in Ticino.. What am I looking at :-(

Who mentioned "Big Salary" to start with ?

Your fine will be Chf 400.-- + Chf 50.-- costs, how do i know.......

By the way i got a little salary, so if you want to contribute....(got a big dick though)
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Re: Speeding Ticket in Ticino.. What am I looking at :-(

It's important that the fine hurts the whole income spectrum proportionally to their earnings.

If you have the possibility of having to pay more than farmer Fritz, then it might make you more observant, or even tempt you to drive and not rely on cruise control, so much.

I personally have no income, but have never been caught speeding - but I'm a smart driver/rider, who thinks about what I'm doing on the roads.

...... and if ever I do get a ticket, I will use my own initiative to found out what penalties I'm likely to incur, instead of being lazy and asking on a forum, because I couldn't be bothered to search or learn the language, and then act all hurt and surprised when you don't hear what you'd hoped for.

If you're happy to be here making a big monthly income than abide by the rules that come from the place paying said income, and stop bleating like a hurt lamb.

Just my thoughts, prompted by your attitude ..... HTH.
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Re: Speeding Ticket in Ticino.. What am I looking at :-(

You could have quietly searched the forum, and found out all the facts for yourself. Now you have been ridiculed and groaned at too.
These two posts are "Stickys" always at the top of the "Transport and driving forum", so not too dificult to find.

Traffic Offences - Q & A Bullet points

http://www.englishforum.ch/transport...new-fines.html

Once you have been here long enough, you will learn that all punishments in Switzerland are fines based on your crime and salary.
The little ones under Fr 200 are considered to be anonymous warnings.
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If you have the possibility of having to pay more than farmer Fritz, then it might make you more observant, or even tempt you to drive and not rely on cruise control, so much.
What's wrong with cruise control? I wish drivers around here would actually use it.
Nothing more annoying than cruising at 120 when some weirdo comes along, passing me with ~130 only to slow down to ~110 right afterwards.
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What's wrong with cruise control? I wish drivers around here would actually use it.
Nothing more annoying than cruising at 120 when some weirdo comes along, passing me with ~130 only to slow down to ~110 right afterwards.
Anything automated, that takes control away from the person supposedly in control, cannot be good.

In your example, it would just be an excuse for crap drivers, who should sit a retest every three years, anyway.
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