Our 2012 Qashqai doesn't.

Unbelievably poor driving. When you enter a tunnel you should notice immediately that there is no light on the speedometer.

Yes. Clearly you under the false impression that the headlight law is some sort of social engineering.

I could have added that I am please to hear the police are at last enforcing this safety law - but I didn't...

Oh and you know this fact because you're some sort of expert on Swiss driving laws too? Wow you're incredible. Literally incredible.

I'll take that as a compliment.

Clearly that CHF40 meant a lot to you, but I would go out and enjoy the sun instead of brooding on it...

Again, you aren't showing your reading prowess. Nowhere did I complain about the 40Fr fine. That's just the most dramatic point you can harp on, in your usual fashion.

If you cared to read instead of trolling, you could see I was questioning the merit of the law on a social basis, as it's more likely to affect the less affluent due to the visibility of the violations and the fact that newer, more expensive cars are equipped with DRLs and/or Auto on lights.

Edit: also incredible: in=not; credible=believable. But go ahead, take it as a compliment.

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Chill dude, many cars have always-illuminated clocks so that particular argument doesn't really stand in all cases.

Liar liar pants on fire.

Can I install on my car custom LED DRL from eBay?
Shall I register it with the street police?

Yes.

No.

Tom

You may - all right most certainly will - have problems at the MFK...

If they have international approval (E..) according to ECE-R 87 and are mounted according to ECE-R 48, you did not remove any load bearing or protective parts, and they do not protrude you do not have to do anything. Otherwise they are simply illegal and you may get fined.


http://www.stva.zh.ch/internet/siche...TAGF201607.pdf

Why?

I haven't.

There are specifications for placement, and that they should be off when the main lights are on, as long as you follow those there is no problem.

Tom

This is one of those things that will trigger gasps and tensing of the sphincter in the regelmessig Swiss population, but is really quite simple. There are rules, and if you follow them, you'll be fine. Most of the DRL kits you buy in Europe will be compliant, and most you buy from China will not. However, you won't get "fined" if you do it wrong. In fact, my first set of Chinese drls were far from compliant, and the police at the checkpoint had no idea what the rules were. They just said "they don't look bright enough" but couldn't find any measure of how bright they should be. So that prompted me to check into it. I got a replacement from Conrad for one car and a set of Osram ledriving fog pl for the other on Amazon.de and followed the package instructions. No problem since. Pay no attention to fear mongers.

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Off topic, I want to fit a pair of fog lights and a led light bar in front of the front grill of my 4x4. All will be wired with a manual switch and only be used for off roading at night and not in Switzerland.

I suppose I'm alright to drive with them without switching them on in Switzerland?

Maybe yes, maybe no, who knows !

For the MFK, probably not, plus their is the additional damage to people when you have an accident, i think bull bars are generally outlawed here, a light bar will do the same damage as bull bars

Can't you fir them to a removable bar ?

If any lights are fitted, regardless of whether they're used, they must conform to all the relevant rules (of the country of registration).

And also for the police. If they don't conform to MFK requirements it's illegal to have them fitted.

Go ask about the requirements at a 4x4 "tuning" shop. Then you'll be able to find lights that work. I have some magnetic mount work lights in the truck that I attach only when I need them, usually just for work lights when loading the bed, or on the front when I'm off-road, with waterproof connectors wired to a switch that stay in place on my Thule bar. Works great, and no problems with the fuzz.

Thank you all!

I called (actually one of my friends called) the strassenverkesamt in BE. Basically you can have any number of fog lights fitted in front, no issues, incl. light bars as long as they do not increase the length of the car.

But you cannot install any lights on the roof unless you have a truck.

Bull bars are 100% illegal..

So 4 years on has this law been a success or failure? Still see a lot of cars not using them. Have accidents been reduced because of them? Still seeing a lot of cars without rear lights in tunnels because they haven't switched their main headlights on when entering. Saw a car this morning with its rear fog light on, but nothing else at the rear. No idea if it had front lights or not.