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Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland

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I think that driving a car with a foreign plate in switzerland having a swiss driving license is illegal, right? But what happens exactly if police stop you in this situation? Do you just get a fine or it will be a problem and they will retire you the driving license? I was not able to find anything in the website about this...

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Re: Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland

Hey my friend had this situation, and the police nicely told him that he just had to change the plate immendiately. Without big consequences.

But I'm not sure it happens every time like that

Sooner or later you will have to change it.

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Re: Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland

Hi Pama,

thank you for your reply. Actually I am buying a new car in switzerland (with swiss plate), however it will arrive in 4 months. So for the next 3/4 months I just have this old card with foreign plate and it does not really make sense for me to change it to swiss plate (also the car is of my mother which is living in Italy).

If the maximum risk is a fine, even 300 CHF or similar, ok I can take it. However I do not want to risk to loose the swiss driving license, otherwise when I will get the new car I will not be able to drive it.. very bad!

Thanks for the information anyway!
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Hello,

I think that driving a car with a foreign plate in switzerland having a swiss driving license is illegal, right? But what happens exactly if police stop you in this situation? Do you just get a fine or it will be a problem and they will retire you the driving license? I was not able to find anything in the website about this...

Thank you!
Marco
Well it's the customs who will sting you, no free importing of a previously owned car if it's not been declared so VAT & a fine of 3 times the VAT. People have been stung for 20k or more, depends on the value of the car.
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Well it's the customs who will sting you, no free importing of a previously owned car if it's not been declared so VAT & a fine of 3 times the VAT. People have been stung for 20k or more, depends on the value of the car.
customs "caught" me back in 1996 and told me to import the car.

I said no and sold the car is the UK.

No mention of a fine or duty owed and I certainly did not declare the car when entering Switzerland.
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customs "caught" me back in 1996 and told me to import the car.

I said no and sold the car is the UK.

No mention of a fine or duty owed and I certainly did not declare the car when entering Switzerland.
How long had you lived here in 1996? I assume you were charged 25 CHF for a form? Perhaps you were lucky
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Re: Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland

Just thought I'd tag on to this thread, as I was just discussing with a work colleague - can anyone provide links to the laws/regs forbidding driving of someone else's foreign registered car in CH on a Swiss licence. Also the laws about how long you can drive a foreign car you've bought before you have to import it.

I've spent about fifteen minutes searching, but all the links I've found in previous threads are no longer valid, so if anyone's got this info themselves I'd appreciate it.
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Just thought I'd tag on to this thread, as I was just discussing with a work colleague - can anyone provide links to the laws/regs forbidding driving of someone else's foreign registered car in CH on a Swiss licence. Also the laws about how long you can drive a foreign car you've bought before you have to import it.

I've spent about fifteen minutes searching, but all the links I've found in previous threads are no longer valid, so if anyone's got this info themselves I'd appreciate it.

You wont find a law that will forbid driving a foreign registred car with a Swiss license. Period. (How can you prove a negative?)
http://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifie...ion/74.html#74

But you will find alot about about importing of motor vehicles, restrictions, relaxations and exemptions etc. But still nothing about the license. What matters is your domicile and under what condition the car was brought over the border.
http://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifie...ion/63.html#63

Some links (Use Beförderungsmittel as search term):
http://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifie...index.html#a35
http://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifie...index.html#a55

Two basic rules:
1) Your domicile is in Switzerland, you drive with a non Swiss registred car over the border, you have to stop at the border and declare the car. (if not previously done).

2) Your domicile is not in Switzerland, you drive with a non Swiss registred car over the border, you do not have to stop at the border under the condition that it is for you own personal use and the car stays in Switzerland for no longer than one year. Giving your car to any third party means a custom/tax vialation.
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Re: Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland

And the international drivers license is simply a translation document... nothing more.
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Re: Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland

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Should be no problem at all. I've rented cars all over the world with my Swiss licence.Not sure why you even think that there might be some problem.

And no, you don't need the International Licence thing, which is basically a con as it's only valid with your real licence anyway.
Yes, but some countries ask tourists to have an international license with them. Not within EU+CH. However, when I drive in Lebanon (for example), the car rental is always keen to see the international license.

Australia obliges you to have an official translation with you, which (at least the German) consulate in Sydney provides for their citizens. (However, when in OZ, why not just get an OZ-license? Super easy, at least I managed using the address of friends. I was just a tourist )

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And the international drivers license is simply a translation document... nothing more.
That´s exactly what it is - an internationally standardised version of a translation.
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Re: Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland

I am leasing BMW in Germany and plan to move to Switzerland soon. As I understand I can legally drive that leased car in Switzerland for 12 months only. What should I do next?
What happens if police stops me after 12 months? Will they confiscate the car even if it belongs to BMW bank?

Please, advise.
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I am leasing BMW in Germany and plan to move to Switzerland soon. As I understand I can legally drive that leased car in Switzerland for 12 months only. What should I do next?
What happens if police stops me after 12 months? Will they confiscate the car even if it belongs to BMW bank?

Please, advise.
Pay off the leasing co & buy another car in CH.
You would not be able to import tax free as you did not own it for 6 months before moving here.
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Re: Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland

So I if I am stopped after 12 months in a car leased from German BMW bank, police and custom can charge me with hefty fees even if I do not own the car?

So for any car I want to import, it needs to be completely paid off?
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Re: Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland

International licence is a translation document only. Nothing more nothing less.
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German plate car with Swiss driving license

Hi,

is it possible to have and use a car with German plate in Switzerland, having a Swiss driving license and living in Switzerland?

I mean, would be possible to keep the car with the German plate paying just the 8% VAT? I want to buy a car for track days and thus I want to do some changes to the car, such as increase power, increase brakes, new suspensions, etc.. and for some of these there are limitations that are really ridicoulus in Switzerland, so I prefer to have a German plate car, that I can tune as I like.

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Hi,

is it possible to have and use a car with German plate in Switzerland, having a Swiss driving license and living in Switzerland?

I mean, would be possible to keep the car with the German plate paying just the 8% VAT? I want to buy a car for track days and thus I want to do some changes to the car, such as increase power, increase brakes, new suspensions, etc.. and for some of these there are limitations that are really ridicoulus in Switzerland, so I prefer to have a German plate car, that I can tune as I like.

Thanks for any help.
Seriously?????

You have been unable to find anything on the forum that would help you. If this topic has been discussed once it has been discussed a hundred times.
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Seriously?????

You have been unable to find anything on the forum that would help you. If this topic has been discussed once it has been discussed a hundred times.
It's one thing being too lazy to search the forum, but too lazy to search your own thread...
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It's one thing being too lazy to search the forum, but too lazy to search your own thread...
.. well actually I read the entire forum and there is not a very clear answer to my precise question. Maybe I was not very clear, or maybe you just didn't read it careful. Anyway, let me try again.

First of all, my question is not to evade taxes in Switzerland. The issue arise because I want to make use of my car on track days in Europe (Germany, France, Italy), and to do so I need to perform some changes to the car: better brakes, lower suspensions, etc.. in particular BRAKES are very very important.

Now the problem is that Switzerland does not accept TUV certificates, so a brake that is legal in the entire Europe is not legal here, EVEN IF IT IS SAFER AND STRONGER. The STVK says that I need a DTC or FAKT, that is a certificate valid only here, and that might cost 12.000 CHF (not exagerating).

Now, I understand that my car should be safe on the street, and I also understand that if I change something STVK has the right to see it and be aware about it. What I don't understand is why should I pay 12.000 CHF to install something that is CLEARLY safe and absolutely legal in ALL Europe.

So, given that, I am trying to see if there are ways to have a car with a EU plate so that I can avoid to have these issues with the STVK. In most places in the forum people just say no. OK - but for example what happens if I get a German car and I keep it in Germany for most of the time, using it only for track days? I can buy a Garage close to the border where to keep it and I can use it mainly in Germany. I will only need time to time to cross Switzerland for example to go in Italy, but this will be just a crossing, that meas the car will stay in the country for 4 hours maximum.

Another way maybe is to have a leasing in Germany. I think I cannot import a car that has a leasing in Germany, because the car is not mine - am I right? So this maybe can solve my problem.

In summary, any suggestion to what I can do to be able to have a car for track-days living in Switzerland and being able to drive it mainly in EU?

Thank you.
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Re: Driving a car with foreign plate with Swiss Driving License in Switzerland

Of course, you can keep a car in Germany. You just wouldn't be able to drive it in/through Switzerland to go anywhere else if you have a Swiss driver's licence. People who have Swiss driver's licences aren't allowed to drive foreign plated vehicles here. So if you wanted to drive from Germany to Italy you'd have to go via Austria, not Switzerland.

You'd also have to declare it as part of your worldwide wealth on your Swiss tax return.
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