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Re: Pedestrian crossing rules.

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I get the rule, but I don't get why people blindly follow it and just walk out in front of traffic. We are taught to drive defensively and look out for others, but it's okay to just step off the curb without looking?
I think the average pedestrian would feel justified to flip this and say "I get the rule, but I don't see why drivers don't follow it and accelerate over a pedestrian crossing when people are waiting. Pedestrians are taught to look for traffic when crossing, but it's okay for drivers to ignore traffic rules when they don't want to brake?"

(I don't believe that generalization about drivers, but that's what the flip of your quote looks like).

I'm not turning it into 'pedestrians versus drivers'. It's a shared problem of how to keep roads safe for all kinds of users - tram, car, bike, pedestrian... But your perspective is slanted to only one of multiple points of view.

The flags idea sounds great for a busy crossing.

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Old 05.01.2014, 12:08
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.. But your perspective is slanted to only one of multiple points of view...
It is only slanted toward personal responsibility and paying attention to one's surroundings. Unfortunately, too many of us are too distracted, whether we are driving, cycling, or walking. I'm guilty of being distracted sometimes too.
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Re: Pedestrian crossing rules.

Well agreed about personal responsibility. But human nature isn't going to change, that's why I think that self-driving vehicles will be revolutionary - humans aren't that great at driving safely in crowded urban environments, so replace them with autonomous vehicles which are always going to behave in exactly the same way for best safety.
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While swiss drivers overall are better then most countries the ones that drive through Zurich are arrogant and have no regard at all for pedestrians.
IME in the city of Zurich there's a much higher concentration of a**holes on the road than anywhere else in Switzerland. This concerns drivers, cyclists and pedestrians alike. I have learned to adjust my behavior accordingly as soon as I cross the city limits.

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IME in the city of Zurich there's a much higher concentration of a**holes on the road than anywhere else in Switzerland. This concerns drivers, cyclists and pedestrians alike. I have learned to adjust my behavior accordingly as soon as I cross the city limits.
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There are a number of crossings in Zurich where if you stand patiently waiting to cross the cars just keep coming playing chicken with you. Had times where i waited and decided enough was enough and had the third car in a line lock up their brakes to stop in time.

While swiss drivers overall are better then most countries the ones that drive through Zurich are arrogant and have no regard at all for pedestrians. They are probably actually expat EF members!
Yeah, the crosswalks from the Central tram station to Niederdorf and Banhofbrücke are a hell
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Re: Pedestrian crossing rules.

i like the idea of pedestrian holding out arm horizontally to signal intention of crossing. Cars signal, cyclists signal, walking humans signaling before crossing isn’t a farfetched difficult thing to do. At least the communication is clear there’s no debate around it. 🤷🏻♀️
No one wants to kill (even “luxury car” drivers) or be killed on the road. I don’t drive a “luxury car” i personally think good/bad driving behavior comes from drivers/cars of all kinds. i am a driver and also a pediatrician depending on the day. i do believe that most drivers do drive with courtesy to others, myself included, but definitely not perfect.
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. . . i am a driver and also a pediatrician depending on the day. i do believe that most drivers do drive with courtesy to others, myself included, but definitely not perfect.
Are you using some form of auto proof reader software ?
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