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Can motorbikes filter in traffic now

I saw an initiative to allow motorbikes to legally filter in traffic. Did this make any progress or is it still illegal to do so?
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Old 06.02.2014, 10:32
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Re: Can motorbikes filter in traffic now

Still illegal. But hard to get caught doing....unless you filter past a cop......
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Re: Can motorbikes filter in traffic now

Never thought it was illegal.
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Re: Can motorbikes filter in traffic now

filtering as in overtaking slowly-moving traffic over a broken white line is considered OK - it's overtaking after all. Splitting lanes, though, is "real" filtering and is (strictly speaking) illegal here.

It does depend where you live as to the tolerance....
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Re: Can motorbikes filter in traffic now

And you get twats in cars that move over to block you filtering as well.
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Re: Can motorbikes filter in traffic now

And big trucks!
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filtering as in overtaking slowly-moving traffic over a broken white line is considered OK .
The police in some cantons (GR and SG at least) may have a different interpretation of this depending on how much and how slow moving.
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Re: Can motorbikes filter in traffic now

Has anyone in Zurich got any experience of getting caught for this? Recently moved here from Geneva where everyone rides their (motor)bikes on bus lanes and in some places tram lanes and I've never heard of anyone having any issues...
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Has anyone in Zurich got any experience of getting caught for this? Recently moved here from Geneva where everyone rides their (motor)bikes on bus lanes and in some places tram lanes and I've never heard of anyone having any issues...

Last year there was a campaign informing about the law:
http://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/content/...agne-2013.html

2010
http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/zuerich/...story/28320945

2009
http://www.swissbikers.ch/smf2/index.php?topic=1257.0
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Has anyone in Zurich got any experience of getting caught for this? Recently moved here from Geneva where everyone rides their (motor)bikes on bus lanes and in some places tram lanes and I've never heard of anyone having any issues...
Basic rule, not only concerning traffic laws:

- In the German speaking part of Switzerland, everything that is not explicitely allowed is forbidden.

- In the Romandie, everything that is not explicitely forbidden is allowed (with some artistic license).

- In Ticino, everything is allowed, no matter how explicitely forbidden.

- The Romansh part of the Grisons is somewhere between German speaking Switzerland and Ticino, not necessarily topographically but linguistically and mentality-wise.
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Basic rule, not only concerning traffic laws:

- The Romansh part of the Grisons is somewhere between German speaking Switzerland and Ticino, not necessarily topographically but linguistically and mentality-wise.
In Grison:
- If you speak Grison German, Romansh, or Italian, see Ticiono rule.
- If you speak French, see Romandie rule.
- If you speak Swiss German, see Swiss German rule.
- If you speak Zurich Swiss German, you are busted any way.
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Re: Can motorbikes filter in traffic now

Crazy. Thanks so much for this - I guess I won't be weaving through traffic!

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Re: Can motorbikes filter in traffic now

While we're on the general topic of what motorbikes can and cannot do, how well tolerated is bike parking on pavements? (So far it would appear as though I've been lucky - I've been parked on the pavement right next to the Kasern for almost 6 months without any hiccups but don't really want to tempt fate...)
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Re: Can motorbikes filter in traffic now

park on really wide pavements

pedestrians need 2 meters space from the wall to the curb. if there is more, u are less likely to get a ticket

source: I got a ticket for parking leaving 1.75m for pedestrians. was 150.-
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Old 07.04.2014, 19:48
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Re: Can motorbikes filter in traffic now

Ive seen them several times fine motorbikes doing this in front of Opernhaus. And Im glad they do. Drives me crazy that the mc riders think they have the right to jump the queue just because they are on a mc. Because that is what they de facto do. They overtake and then push themselves in between two cars and then happily occupies as much space as a normal car.

Thats not filtering. Thats simply bad manners.

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Re: Can motorbikes filter in traffic now

the bad manners part is the filtering.. not the "happily occupies as much space as a normal car" because that's how it is supposed to be.
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Re: Can motorbikes filter in traffic now

I remember a complaint a while back someone was stuck in traffic for hours at the gotthard tunnel on sunday (well duh!) and complained bikes were filtering thru the traffic and going to the front.

My answer is and always will be with similar complaints:

Tough shit, get a bike if you dont like it and deal with it.
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Re: Can motorbikes filter in traffic now

If you ride a 'bike, filtering is obligatory, immaterial of the law.

It cracks me up to see old gits in their padded jeans, heavy boots, black and orange leathers, open, matt black helmets and shades; trying to look as menacing as Arnie, waiting like good little boys, in a line of traffic ......... bankers.
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Recently moved here from Geneva where everyone rides their (motor)bikes on bus lanes and in some places tram lanes...
And the pavement.
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Ive seen them several times fine motorbikes doing this in front of Opernhaus. And Im glad they do. Drives me crazy that the mc riders think they have the right to jump the queue just because they are on a mc. Because that is what they de facto do. They overtake and then push themselves in between two cars and then happily occupies as much space as a normal car.

Thats not filtering. Thats simply bad manners.
Peas and sand. That's why it's legal in many countries because it makes ALL traffic flow faster, including the cars. The bikes in front of you filtered to make your wait shorter.
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