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Clay Bar - and/or detailing products

Anyone with a recommendation for where to get it?

I have found a place in Ruti - with a Meguirs kit for 63chf (2 bars + lubricant).

Anywhere closer to Zurich?
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Old 20.05.2014, 18:27
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Re: Clay Bar - and/or detailing products

Ignore what is says on the Meguiars site - in terms of dealer locations - it is at least 6 months out of date

In the end I popped into TCS (Hegnau). They have a pretty much full range of SONAX products including a clay bar kit.

Unfortunately this happened after I had removed sap using nail varnish remover; polished (Sonax Nano 2); and waxed (Turtle Hard Shell) the car.

I guess I will give it a go at the end of summer.
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Old 20.05.2014, 18:35
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Re: Clay Bar - and/or detailing products

This doesn't help you, but maybe you can help me. Are clay bars really good for your car's paintwork? Seems to me that rubbing a dirty car with a fairly hard/solid clay bar is going to rub that wonderfully abrasive dirt/dust all over your paintwork. Sure, you're supposed to rinse the car first, but a lot of dirt stays on. The clay bar gets covered with dirt particles and I can't understand how it wouldn't just cover the paintwork with slight scratches.
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Old 20.05.2014, 19:29
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Re: Clay Bar - and/or detailing products

The British car show always have stands, it's where I get my stuff from
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This doesn't help you, but maybe you can help me. Are clay bars really good for your car's paintwork? Seems to me that rubbing a dirty car with a fairly hard/solid clay bar is going to rub that wonderfully abrasive dirt/dust all over your paintwork. Sure, you're supposed to rinse the car first, but a lot of dirt stays on. The clay bar gets covered with dirt particles and I can't understand how it wouldn't just cover the paintwork with slight scratches.
I didn't spend much time today watching videos on how to do it. As far as I can see the particles go into the clay. You then swirl fix the paint, then wax.

The 328 came up really well without the clay stage - but I did spot a huge number of chips, scratches and minor dents

I'll let you know the results when I do actually use the kit
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Re: Clay Bar - and/or detailing products

Claying is easy and makes a huge difference

Make sure you get a lubricant as well as a clay bar
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Old 20.05.2014, 21:26
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Claying is easy and makes a huge difference

Make sure you get a lubricant as well as a clay bar
It is full kit - lubricant and bar
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Re: Clay Bar - and/or detailing products

I had some time today to do a bit of car cleaning.

First up I actually made an effort with the wheels on one of the cars - even going as far as polishing them.



Then it was the turn of the Disco to be washed, clayed and polished. The clay bar lifted off a huge amount of dirt from the paintwork - mainly on the bonnet and rear 3/4. I again used the Sonax polish - and the whole car has come up looking pretty good.

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Re: Clay Bar - and/or detailing products

Dodgyken, did you use a polisher/grinder? I just bought the Meguiar's Restoration Kit from Amazon and plan to detail my car this weekend. It will be my first time to clay and use a polisher so I'm a bit excited.

Also, I've read a lot of good reviews from different car forums about the cheap chinese clay bars found in ebay. So I ordered some to try it out in the future.
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Old 02.06.2015, 15:43
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Re: Clay Bar - and/or detailing products

In general you should be very careful using a polisher - mid-level polish, applied by hand and then lifted by hand should deal with most imperfections.

If not:
1) Use a more aggressive polish
2) Use an even more aggressive polish
3) Revert to a very fine polish and use a polisher
4) Increase the aggressiveness of the polish one step at a time

My electric car polisher has only seen action on the race car and then when stripped and polished a bathroom floor.

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The Disco above received a polish and wax 10 days ago (it wasn't waxed last year).
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Re: Clay Bar - and/or detailing products

If you have a dual-action polisher you should be fine. It's pretty easy but remember the pads are honestly half the battle.

I got some stuff earlier in the year, but I didn't have any microfiber cutting pads and my paint needs some more work. Also I did it in the cold in March, so it was hard for the compound to heat up and do its work properly.

It still helped tremendously, but I'd just want to to go the extra mile and make it perfect. Maybe later, after some work is done on the car.

I used a dual-action polisher with foam pads, quite soft unfortunately so I couldn't cut deep. Meguiar's Ultimate Cutting Compound, and then Ultimate Polish, and sealed with Autoglym Super Resin Polish because I've used it before and it lasts for ages and is very good. Also I had some left, and no wax

I clayed with a Sonax kit I found in Coop B+H for I don't remember how much, but I guess around 25CHF. I got it mainly for the lubricant, but the small clay pack held its own pretty well on my car. The paint was in an astonishingly good shape as far as contaminants were concerned. As far as swirl marks and haze though, see below and weep...

Some before and afters:




















After the summer vacations and before the fall, I'm going to do a full 2-day job, with microfiber cutting pads and maybe some 1500/3000 grit wetsanding at some places.
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Re: Clay Bar - and/or detailing products

I've never tried this clay bar but I'm quite happy with the spray wax and spray detailer from meguiars... relatively easy on the elbows...

Mainly bought from amazon but if you fancy a trip to Konstanz, then it is also available at ATU (call them first).

Sorry to hijack this thread... I've always hand-washed the car body and would prefer to keep it that way. However, for the wheels and underbody, I can accept these nasty machines. Is there a wash program only for wheels and underbody? I know they are usually extra to the normal car wash...
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Re: Clay Bar - and/or detailing products

Don't buy the clay lube products it's a rip off. A drop of shampoo in a spray bottle is all that's needed.
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Don't buy the clay lube products it's a rip off. A drop of shampoo in a spray bottle is all that's needed.
... and even then, I usually skimp on the drop of shampoo.
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Don't buy the clay lube products it's a rip off. A drop of shampoo in a spray bottle is all that's needed.
Is that head and shoulders above other techniques?
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Re: Clay Bar - and/or detailing products

I love the claybar. You know it will even take off overspray... JUst did the truck last weekend and what a difference.

No time to Polish and wax though as I no longer have the machine.....
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First up I actually made an effort with the wheels on one of the cars - even going as far as polishing them.


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Re: Clay Bar - and/or detailing products

Are those 'run 'em flat' tyres?
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Re: Clay Bar - and/or detailing products

Don Molina, I did mine last Saturday for 5 hours. Mostly claying. I did use Meguiar's Ultimate Compound then wax but I didn't get the same result that you had. I used a double action polisher stanley fatmax up to 12000rpm but only used the low settings as the foam flew on higher settings. I was quite happy with the result, especially with the clay bar picking up a lot of dirt and the paint feeling as smooth as glass. But it wasn't as perfect as I was hoping it to be.



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Re: Clay Bar - and/or detailing products

The megs kit is a bit crap tbh... get a bottle of megs 85 and megs 83 and the results will be far superior or you can get a sample kit of menzerna and it will last you ages. Be careful with megs pads also as they changed the backing pad size so the edges rip apart at higher speeds or after some use...
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