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Selling a right hand drive car in Switzerland

I am trying save my friend from losing £10,000 to a scam . Could you provide some advice please?

He has found an advert for an AUDI Q7 4 wheel drive car owned by a brit living in Switzerland. It is a British registered car. The price is £10,000 which is about 25% of its actual value. The seller claims that they do not have the time to drive back to the UK and sell it and that swiss car dealers are not interested at any price!

Could this possibly be genuine? My view is that a swiss dealer would offer far in excess of £10k for this car and that nobody is prepared to write off £30k just because they can't be bothered to drive to the UK.
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My view is that a swiss dealer would offer far in excess of £10k for this car and that nobody is prepared to write off £30k just because they can't be bothered to drive to the UK.

Think you've hit the nail on the head. If it sounds too good to be true then it usually is.
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Re: Selling a right hand drive car in Switzerland

Also an Audi dealer in the UK would be prepared to fly to CH and drive it back and pay a lot more than £10K for it.
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Re: Selling a right hand drive car in Switzerland

It does sound too good to be true. But then again, some people are that stupid. Worth checking out, but get the UK rego number and the VIN number. Contact the DVLA to see what their records say about the car. Also check with the ZollAmt if the car has been officially imported into Switzerland and also with the local registration office (can't remember the long German name for it) to see if they have any record.

Also check the state of the MOT/MFK and insurance.

If anything smells fishy, or the seller just seems dodgy (Will only meet you in a carpark, will only accept cash, won't give you full name and address) then just walk away from it.
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Re: Selling a right hand drive car in Switzerland

post the ad and we'll take it apart. We might even know the person....

A Q7 would look odd up Darlo way
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Re: Selling a right hand drive car in Switzerland

Actually he lives in a posh part of Darlington (Hurworth) so should be ok. You know the area?
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Re: Selling a right hand drive car in Switzerland

Go to sleazy jet website, buy ticket, come and see car, check it out via DVLA & Swiss authorites that the guy actualy owns the car, get the documents, pay the money and drive away.
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Re: Selling a right hand drive car in Switzerland

It could be a stolen car. Be careful.
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Re: Selling a right hand drive car in Switzerland

Make sure you arrange a meeting in a public place.

There have been cases of kidnaping, given that with the add they KNOW you have 10K to pay for your freedom.

It is worth checking but be VERY carefull
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Re: Selling a right hand drive car in Switzerland

10k for a Q7 ? Just the transmission assembly would cost more than that .....

Sounds dodgy .... Just be on the lookout for Del Boy and Rodney lurking in the shadows ....
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Re: Selling a right hand drive car in Switzerland

Its almost certainly a scam. We check scams for Auto Trader via http://www.carscams.co.uk and this is a well established one.

The vendor offers a car which is priced far too low. The story is usually similar - he or she is a foreing nations who worked in Britain - usually in the City and bought a (usually expensive) right hand drive car. Subsequently their employer recalled them home. They drove the car back to Spain/Italy/Switzerland (fill in blank) but couldn't get on with it driving on the right, but dealers would offer little for it. They now wanted rid of it but the local dealers would pay very little. They don't have time to drive it back to sell it in the UK.

They are contacted by buyers in the UK, one of which will fall for the story. They will then offer to put you in touch with their "shipper" who will deliver the car. The idea is the buyer pays the "shipper" before delivery who holds the funds in Escrow, releasing them only to the seller when the car arrives. The shipper usually has a fairly impressive website and possibly a call centre.

The problem is that the vendor and the shipper are in cahoots (may be the same person) and once the buyer pays everyone disappears leaving the buyer having paid the money without any car.

I can list you numerous "shippers" who we have recorded operating this scam but there is little point - as soon as one closes another one opens up.

If he plans to buy the car he should tell them he will not unless he checks out the vehicle, verifies the seller has clear title to it, pays for it by a recognised means within a secure environment and brings the vehicle home with him.

If the deal provides for anything other than this he should not get involved or he is likely to lose a great deal of money rather than save it.
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