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joebagofdonuts 21.09.2014 09:38

Going to looking for a used car, I am unfamiliar with many of the cars here.
 
Hi everyone,

My name is Joe and from the Philly area of PA. I am unfamiliar with some of the makes, brands, and models here in Switzerland. Also with some of the engines such as erdgas.

I am looking to buy a used car or something cheap hopefully under 10,000-15,000. In the USA I would use such things as "Kelly Blue Book" "Edmond's" and research a little bit "Consumer Reports". Also I would talk to a local mechanic I was friends with. I am out of my element here in Switzerland as how to search.

The last car I had in the US was a 1998 jeep cherokee in great condition that had well over 200,000 and owned for well over a decade of it's life. With the exception of replacing a radiator and water pump, I did many of the small repairs myself on car. I actually took pride and enjoyed going to the "you pull-it, you pick-it" junk yard for parts and doing the work myself.

I mention that so that someone answering has an idea that my car knowledge is dated and generational, as well as geographically. Cars like Opel Astra are new to me and Peugeots were always foreign for example.

rob1 21.09.2014 10:25

Re: Going to looking for a used car, I am unfamiliar with many of the cars here.
 
Avoid anything french...

Susan57 21.09.2014 10:34

Re: Going to looking for a used car, I am unfamiliar with many of the cars here.
 
You may notice the average Swiss vehicle is not a fix-it-upper. They have strict regulations about registration requirements, after the car is a certain age. Actually, it does seem to make the whole driving experience safer....


In any case, keep your eyes out for good deals here, on English Forum. If you are not in a hurry, you may find exactly what you need.

We needed a second car, but did not want to put out a lot of cash, so this was a good solution for us. http://www.englishforum.ch/items-sal...nd-zurich.html

The Ford has been just what we needed: economic, low mileage, pristine clean and good fun to drive!

Good luck!

Tom1234 21.09.2014 10:34

Re: Going to looking for a used car, I am unfamiliar with many of the cars here.
 
Avoid anything German...

Jern 21.09.2014 11:53

Re: Going to looking for a used car, I am unfamiliar with many of the cars here.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joebagofdonuts (Post 2243106)
With the exception of replacing a radiator and water pump, I did many of the small repairs myself on car. I actually took pride and enjoyed going to the "you pull-it, you pick-it" junk yard for parts and doing the work myself.

Good on you. You can save a fortune in Switzerland by not going to a garage for every little squeak and leak. No junk-yards of that type here, though. :msnsad: Usually have to buy parts online, because they are pricey here. Plenty of EF threads on this topic.

Don't buy anything without a recent MFK (roadworthiness test).

Try online: autoscout24.ch, autoricardo.ch, anibis.ch

dodgyken 21.09.2014 15:21

Re: Going to looking for a used car, I am unfamiliar with many of the cars here.
 
List key requirements and the kindly EF car-geeks will give you suggestions.

EG Size, performance, economy, luxuries, age, condition etc

rainer_d 21.09.2014 15:38

Re: Going to looking for a used car, I am unfamiliar with many of the cars here.
 
If you wait long enough, all the advice in a car-thread will contradict each other.
If you are going to buy a 2nd-hand car not from a dealer and without recent MFK, you can take it to one of these places to have it evaluated:
http://www.tcs.ch/de/der-club/meine-region/#3

Meerkat33 21.09.2014 18:37

Re: Going to looking for a used car, I am unfamiliar with many of the cars here.
 
If you want to get acquainted with the european brands the best thing is to lose some hours browsing through the brand sites to know the models, and english wikipedia pages of the models (since you're buying used you might wanna see older models).

Fuel: in switzerland you go for petrol/gasoline or diesel, there hasn't been any political push toward diesel like in france or toward new fuels like erdgas (which i would avoid), so unless you do more than 20'000 km a year petrol is the best bet because the higher price of diesel engines is hard to pay itself out. SUVs are usually diesel .

Sizes: You should tell us what size and shape you're looking for (sedan, station wagon, hatchback, MPV). Standard size in Switzerland for an all-around is the Golf, slightly bigger for families (like skoda octavia), or smaller like the VW Polo.

Two best seller cars (there are probably a lot of these used i guess) are the Volkswagen Golf, which is the C-segment hatchback you got this in the states too, and the Skoda Octavia which is a normal station wagon (skoda is a medium-lower brand of volkswagen group, it's basically a volkswagen but with better value for money) which has similar underpinnings to the Golf.

Use autoscout24.ch to look for used cars from both privates and dealers and to compare prices.

TiMow 21.09.2014 18:50

Re: Going to looking for a used car, I am unfamiliar with many of the cars here.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rob1 (Post 2243121)
Avoid anything french...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom1234 (Post 2243124)
Avoid anything German...

Avoid anything American .....


- they don't work well in Europe, and are probably a re-badged Euro Or Jap model, anyway.

k_and_e 21.09.2014 19:04

Re: Going to looking for a used car, I am unfamiliar with many of the cars here.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TiMow (Post 2243389)
Avoid anything American .....


- they don't work well in Europe, and are probably a re-badged Euro Or Jap model, anyway.

Avoid anything South European, American or British.
If you want something that runs forever, buy Japanese.
If you want something that you can sell again, buy German.

Meerkat33 21.09.2014 19:11

Re: Going to looking for a used car, I am unfamiliar with many of the cars here.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TiMow (Post 2243389)
Avoid anything American .....
- they don't work well in Europe, and are probably a re-badged Euro Or Jap model, anyway.

What do you mean. The only american cars i saw sold here are the camaro, corvette, mustang and recently Toyota sienna AWD v6 CVT (almost seems a joke, they won't sell any).
Other rebadged american cars like Opel insigna (buick regal) and fiat freemont (dodge journey) are designed to fit european standard and specifications, and have european engines.
GM Korea (Chevrolet-badged Daewoos and daewoos) is closing activities in europe, avoid those yes.

caz 21.09.2014 20:50

Re: Going to looking for a used car, I am unfamiliar with many of the cars here.
 
your search is over :msngrin:

For photos please click on the Dropbox link below. Please feel free to ask any questions.


2007 Volvo XC90 Summum D5 AWD
15,000 CHF
Titanium Grey
Registered February 2007
2.4l Diesel, 185hp (136 kw)
6-speed automatic
206,000 km
Full Volvo service history

7 seats, independently adjustable with integrated middle booster seat
Full leather interior
Climate Control
Integrated Bluetooth
Premium Sound System with mp3 support and auxiliary input
Rear tinted safety glass windows

Also includes:
Full set of winter wheels and tyres
Thule Roof Bars
Load area cover
Unused set of interior mats
Cargo net
English manuals

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/i9efb1qsv...Zk4rJFrZa?dl=0

this is a great car, solid, reliable and lots of room for visitors, ski gear etc
feel free to pm me

st2lemans 21.09.2014 20:57

Re: Going to looking for a used car, I am unfamiliar with many of the cars here.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by k_and_e (Post 2243409)
If you want something that runs forever, buy Japanese.

Not in my experience.

My 15+ year old Ford Focus is still running great, my Mazda was dead at 12 years.

However, longest living have been my '68 Buick Electra 225, and my Italian motorcycles (one bought new in the US 29+ years ago).

Tom

SOBEIT 21.09.2014 21:21

Re: Going to looking for a used car, I am unfamiliar with many of the cars here.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by k_and_e (Post 2243409)
If you want something that runs forever, buy Japanese.

Well maybe the engine but not the body and interior.

Meerkat33 21.09.2014 21:26

Re: Going to looking for a used car, I am unfamiliar with many of the cars here.
 
it's stupid to talk about countries in today's times. Ownership, engine, gearbox, assembly, history can be from different countries.

Tom1234 21.09.2014 21:54

Re: Going to looking for a used car, I am unfamiliar with many of the cars here.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Meerkat33 (Post 2243514)
it's stupid to talk about countries in today's times. Ownership, engine, gearbox, assembly, history can be from different countries.

Yeah, I agree. I was being facetious when I said "Don't buy German".

Other people are just making themselves look uninformed at best.

Jern 21.09.2014 21:57

Re: Going to looking for a used car, I am unfamiliar with many of the cars here.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rainer_d (Post 2243259)
If you wait long enough, all the advice in a car-thread will contradict each other.

I disagree :)

Meerkat33 21.09.2014 21:58

Re: Going to looking for a used car, I am unfamiliar with many of the cars here.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom1234 (Post 2243534)
I was being facetious when I said "Don't buy German".

Yes i got that ;)

TiMow 21.09.2014 22:10

Re: Going to looking for a used car, I am unfamiliar with many of the cars here.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Meerkat33 (Post 2243414)
What do you mean. The only american cars i saw sold here are the camaro, corvette, mustang and recently Toyota sienna AWD v6 CVT (almost seems a joke, they won't sell any).
Other rebadged american cars like Opel insigna (buick regal) and fiat freemont (dodge journey) are designed to fit european standard and specifications, and have european engines.
GM Korea (Chevrolet-badged Daewoos and daewoos) is closing activities in europe, avoid those yes.

When I wrote that they don't work here, I didn't mean mechanically, but aesthetically.

American metal is built, primarily for the domestic market and roads.

Having lived on the west coast, all these muscle cars (and Harleys for that matter) are great on the wide open boulevards; cruising up the PCH, or even trundling along Mulholland.

But bring them over here and they're stifled - narrow, twisty roads, with loads of pushbikers to get round, speed bumps, 30kph limits - unless all they want is just to zap up and down the motorway.

Every 'vet or Mustung I've seen here, has been driven by an old wannabe foagey, with engine speed hardly above tick over.

As for the family wagons - long and wide tons of metal and big thirsty engines ......... with petrol price increases in the near future.

dodgyken 21.09.2014 22:49

Re: Going to looking for a used car, I am unfamiliar with many of the cars here.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TiMow (Post 2243551)
.....with engine speed hardly above tick over.....

V8s are cool like that :D:D

For 15k you can buy anything from 3 year old eco-boxes to 10++ year old luxury barges - with a mix of performance estates, 2 seaters, workhorse SUVs and work-a-day rep mobiles.

Buy what works for you and makes you happy


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