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Re: Android App to Alert of Speeding [Traffic Sign Recognition]

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Fair enough, your decision. But you should have warned the OP he could be fined up to 180 days for using CamSam.
1. I have no idea about the fine, and the link suggests that this would only be for "serious cases" which implies some of the other aspects included, rather than just the use of such a device.
2. It had already been pointed out, and I reaffirmed, that it was illegal.
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Old 15.10.2014, 14:41
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Re: Android App to Alert of Speeding [Traffic Sign Recognition]

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Ah Switzerland. The country where you can have sex with a 16 year old prostitute but you can't have speed cameras on your GPS
And your point is?
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Old 15.10.2014, 14:43
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Re: Android App to Alert of Speeding [Traffic Sign Recognition]

can you have a database of 16 yr old prostitutes in your GPS?

what happens if they are all standing next to speed cameras?????
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Old 15.10.2014, 14:43
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Re: Android App to Alert of Speeding [Traffic Sign Recognition]

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Fair enough, your decision. But you should have warned the OP he could be fined up to 180 days for using CamSam.
CamSam apparently has background /widget mode: where it alerts for surpassing the speed limit. I am curious if my phone screen is off (and I have a passcode lock screen) - how is this subject to discovery?

There MUST be a tool/app that works within the law for those who wish to abide and not break/bend the law... I only wish to hear a beep if I am above the speed limit, not be forewarned there is a camera ahead. Driving within the speed limit means I have nothing to worry about in case of, or lack of, camera ahead.
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Old 15.10.2014, 14:44
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Re: Android App to Alert of Speeding [Traffic Sign Recognition]

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CamSam apparently has background /widget mode: where it alerts for surpassing the speed limit. I am curious if my phone screen is off (and I have a passcode lock screen) - how is this subject to discovery?

There MUST be a tool/app that works within the law for those who wish to abide and not break/bend the law... I only wish to hear a beep if I am above the speed limit, not be forewarned there is a camera ahead. Driving within the speed limit means I have nothing to worry about in case of, or lack of, camera ahead.

just about every off the shelf gps has an overspeed warning function, that will beep as soon as you go over the limit no matter what.

after about 10 minutes you'll turn it off or chuck it out the window
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Old 15.10.2014, 15:00
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Re: Android App to Alert of Speeding [Traffic Sign Recognition]

Geeez, I drove for 46 years (now I take trams or rickshaws) without a smartphone and only got 1 speeding ticket. I sure wish they'd had them then
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Old 15.10.2014, 15:16
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Re: Android App to Alert of Speeding [Traffic Sign Recognition]

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HERE (a.k.a. Nokia Maps)
http://here.com/download/?lang=en-US

For Lumia (and other Nokia phones) and Samsung Galaxy Phones.

PS: Won't help in tunnels.
Folks, this nailed it. You can see here (and I can confirm after installing the APK) that the Speed Warning is there and *exactly* what I needed!!!



As this article suggests, I am pretty sure with Waze under their wing Google will not think twice to "adopt" this feature in their future maps but until then, HERE Maps keeps you notified and hopefully on the good side of the law.

Thank you @aSwissInTheUS for this unexpected but brilliant advice.
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Old 15.10.2014, 15:23
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Re: Android App to Alert of Speeding [Traffic Sign Recognition]

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Geeez, I drove for 46 years (now I take trams or rickshaws) without a smartphone and only got 1 speeding ticket. I sure wish they'd had them then
Not exactly fair statement, considering that 46 (or even 6) years ago speed cams were not a municipal/state business which generated in excess of CHF750M on the back of "speed daemons" crossing the limit by 5-10km. Also unfair if most of your driving was done in India or other locations known for their absence of roads and other infrastructure.
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Old 15.10.2014, 15:29
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Re: Android App to Alert of Speeding [Traffic Sign Recognition]

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Thank you @aSwissInTheUS for this unexpected but brilliant advice.
Should I be proud, smug, offended or upset?



PS: You should not fiddle with your phone at 49 in a 40 MPH zone
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Old 15.10.2014, 15:34
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Re: Android App to Alert of Speeding [Traffic Sign Recognition]

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I assume if you're stopped at ridiculous speeds then they might look at your GPS and its POIs but I've not heard of any case where someone has been done.

And you can be jailed for life for murder but it seems many are not jailed that long.

Anyway, I'd pepper-spray the copper, throw the GPS away while he's rubbing his eyes and pay the 630
I do see newspaper reports from time to time about people being prosecuted.

I know several people who were stopped in these roadside police controls they have so often here and had their GPS checked for compliance. In one case the policeman was quite an expert and spent some time checking the device before he was satisfied.
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Re: Android App to Alert of Speeding [Traffic Sign Recognition]

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Should I be proud, smug, offended or upset?



PS: You should not fiddle with your phone at 49 in a 40 MPH zone
Proud and smug covers it I meant that NOKIA after M$ is not what we remember and somehow in my head I cannot split Nokia Mobile from Nokia Solutions and automatically hold both mobile+software divisions to synonym Dr. Evil Elop. HERE Maps is brilliant and hopefully not far from being available to all Android devices via the store (updates and all). Eager to go home tonight and try it on the way
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Old 15.10.2014, 16:59
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Re: Android App to Alert of Speeding [Traffic Sign Recognition]

Just to clarify and sum up, it is legal to have the speed limit shown on your GPS, and most apps/devices offer that. I'm using CoPilot for the last couple of years (but haven't really opened it for a few months) and it's working excellently.

If you want camera warnings in CH, you can have it but it's illegal. Some apps have been mentioned, you can also use Trapster. Quite accurate.


But truth is most cameras are in known positions and even the mobile ones are just being rotated in the same old spots.

I also don't think it's always needed to have a reminder for the speed limit. In the city never over 50, the 30 zones are pretty easy to find (most of the time).
Outside it's 80/100/120 and most of the time you can really understand which is where. Of course you will always have retarded speed limits like the 60 before the Schoneich tunnel coming from the north of ZH, but at least there is no camera there (there is one northbound uphigh, but it's decommissioned), but all in all it's a pretty simple matter.

I'd rather people had reminders for good tires (other than the boogie-man that MFK is once every blue moon), looking back when they reverse, and look for more than just the side mirrors when changing lanes
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Old 15.10.2014, 17:20
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Of course you will always have retarded speed limits like the 60 before the Schoneich tunnel coming from the north of ZH, but at least there is no camera there (there is one northbound uphigh, but it's decommissioned)...
I think you just contravened Article 98a of the Swiss Traffic Law. Or did you? Is it illegal to publish information about where there is no speed trap?
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Folks, this nailed it. You can see here (and I can confirm after installing the APK) that the Speed Warning is there and *exactly* what I needed!!!



As this article suggests, I am pretty sure with Waze under their wing Google will not think twice to "adopt" this feature in their future maps but until then, HERE Maps keeps you notified and hopefully on the good side of the law.

Thank you @aSwissInTheUS for this unexpected but brilliant advice.
As the wise bigblue said, after 10 minutes of sped warning you will want to throw it from the window

You need a warning where exactly the camera is, not to drive 50kmh all the time
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Re: Android App to Alert of Speeding [Traffic Sign Recognition]

Is it true that the cameras are owned and operated by private corporations who receive more than 50% of the fine amount?
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Old 16.10.2014, 07:53
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Is it true that the cameras are owned and operated by private corporations who receive more than 50% of the fine amount?
Possibly not.
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Old 16.10.2014, 08:18
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Re: Android App to Alert of Speeding [Traffic Sign Recognition]

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Yes, here they do not even pretend that the speed cameras are for safety
Yeah they do. The argument is that if you know where speed cameras are, you'll drive above the limit in places where you know they're not. If you don't know where they are, then you'll be more likely to drive to the limit, and therefore safer.
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Re: Android App to Alert of Speeding [Traffic Sign Recognition]

I noticed when driving a Garmin in France or Switzerland that it alerts you to "danger areas" and states a speed limit. I assume this is a euphemism for speed camera without actually mentioning it by name. In the Uk it specifically warns about speed cameras.

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Garmin don't publish the location of speed cameras in France
Garmin publishes the location of safety zones in France
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Old 16.10.2014, 08:39
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I do see newspaper reports from time to time about people being prosecuted.

I know several people who were stopped in these roadside police controls they have so often here and had their GPS checked for compliance. In one case the policeman was quite an expert and spent some time checking the device before he was satisfied.
Anyone know the specific right to search and seizure of personal property in these cases? If I lock my phone before they get to me, would I be compelled to unlock it for them to search through without further process? Because that doesn't seem right...
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Yeah they do. The argument is that if you know where speed cameras are, you'll drive above the limit in places where you know they're not. If you don't know where they are, then you'll be more likely to drive to the limit, and therefore safer.
Or judging by the amount of people I see slamming on their brakes (despite doing the speed limit or less) at the last minute as they see a camera, i'm somewhat bemused that there are not more accidents.

Many people still think they cause more accidents then prevent.

Time to call them what they really are; "Revenue generation cameras" not "Safety cameras"
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