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Old 24.11.2014, 10:24
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Re: Importing a classic/vintage car into Switzerland

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You wanted stories of people importing cars - you got one - you didn't like the answer.

You really want to make sure everything is in order BEFORE you buy, restore and ship the car. That means double checking what paperwork already exists in Switzerland. You'll need to check whether the car was originally maticulated here, to what standards and to what emission levels. Switzerland was a lot stricter on emissions than the rest of europe in the 1980s and some cars that were OK in the Europe and the US fail emissions here.

The other point is about parts - it is important that original type parts are used in restoration - if not you will almost certainly find that they flag them as needing individual approval. IIRC it cost a friend somewhere in the region of 20,000chf in order to have this done on a car he was desperate to import (and worth considerably more).

In hindsight I wish I had made sure I had sorted this all out BEFORE I tried to import my car.

EDIT: I can't be for sure, but I think in 1982 Switzerland introduced tighter emission controls (AGV82) which deviated from ECE which was in place before. These moved to AGV86 then FAV 1 and 2 - before merging again with EURO3 in 2001. FAV2 was the same in terms of limitation as EURO2. But double check though. Furthermore if the STVA suspects that power is up over a certain % against stock they will want to know why and require documentation that it is inline with Swiss standards.

Thanks for your answer. THIS was very informative! May I ask what kind of car you currently have? Pics would be super awesome!
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if the STVA suspects that power is up over a certain % against stock they will want to know why and require documentation that it is inline with Swiss standards.
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Re: Importing a classic/vintage car into Switzerland

Also as ken says, make sure you use original parts only when restoring your car, and resist the temptation to stick on that bigger turbo, brembo 4 pots, non standard wheels etc etc until AFTER the import MFK if you do subtle upgrades they *may* not notice, we got away with a couple, but anything in your face they will spot a mile away, no swiss certificate for them (yes even for rims) and its a fail.
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Thanks for your answer. THIS was very informative! May I ask what kind of car you currently have? Pics would be super awesome!
You may ask - you won't get told.
Not sure why pictures would help you in answering your question.

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Also as ken says, make sure you use original parts only when restoring your car, and resist the temptation to stick on that bigger turbo, brembo 4 pots, non standard wheels etc etc until AFTER the import MFK if you do subtle upgrades they *may* not notice, we got away with a couple, but anything in your face they will spot a mile away, no swiss certificate for them (yes even for rims) and its a fail.
Be very very careful with engine rebuilds too. Lets say whatever you buy has a thumping great V8, that when new revved slow but delivered 350ps. Rebuilt with new cylinders, rebored block, polished head and nice oversized valves it producing 420ps. There is a very good chance they'll notice, mainly because when it comes to imports they will put their best man on the inspection and/or the one with model knowledge.
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this is ken and his pride and joy

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Also as ken says, make sure you use original parts only when restoring your car, and resist the temptation to stick on that bigger turbo, brembo 4 pots, non standard wheels etc etc until AFTER the import MFK if you do subtle upgrades they *may* not notice, we got away with a couple, but anything in your face they will spot a mile away, no swiss certificate for them (yes even for rims) and its a fail.
No doubt I like the pic in the car, but I plan on restoring mine to its original beauty. I honestly think all of that "extraness" is tacky May I ask about your process/story about getting your vintage car imported into Switzerland?
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Re: Importing a classic/vintage car into Switzerland

[QUOTE=dodgyken;2288566]You may ask - you won't get told.
Not sure why pictures would help you in answering your question.


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Re: Importing a classic/vintage car into Switzerland

there are a few threads about it

basically get all the documentation for the car you can, if there is such a thing or equivalent of a certificate of conformity in the USA then get that, when you export it get the export certificate, you can never have enough paperwork.

then just follow the normal procedure, insurance, registering, mfk, plates, fun and games
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there are a few threads about it

basically get all the documentation for the car you can, if there is such a thing or equivalent of a certificate of conformity in the USA then get that, when you export it get the export certificate, you can never have enough paperwork.

then just follow the normal procedure, insurance, registering, mfk, plates, fun and games

I realized I wasn't thorough in my question. My apologizes! Did you restore your car before importing it? If so, did you obtain the MFK/other Swiss documentation and pretty much went to Autozone (I don't know if you're American or not) and/or other auto supply stores in regards of the rebuilding? What shipping company did you use and from where until where did you ship your car?
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Re: Importing a classic/vintage car into Switzerland

the car we imported didn't need restoring

the car I'm restoring is a swiss car but being restored in the UK

I put an ad on shiply to find a transport company, I wouldn't recommend that, shiply is crap and full of conmen, found that out too late.

Whenever we need anything done, even servicing, we take the older cars to the uk, swiss prices are a joke, so unless the car has physically broken down I don't buy anything here, everything comes from online and shipped over or buy it when we're back in the uk

we're from the uk and the cars and british cars

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Alternator here - 800chf UK price about 150chf
back box 600chf - uk about 120chf
inlet manifod 2500chf - uk about 750chf

etc etc etc
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basically get all the documentation for the car you can, if there is such a thing or equivalent of a certificate of conformity in the USA then get that, when you export it get the export certificate, you can never have enough paperwork.

then just follow the normal procedure, insurance, registering, mfk, plates, fun and games
As a quick example of this; when I wanted to fit a more efficient exhaust system to one of my classic Minis that wasn't on the swiss approved list (and I simply couldn't get the manufacturer in the UK to understand what a certificate of conformity was) my only option would have been to supply the swiss with one, pay them to test it to destruction and accept their findings. Went with the older system for the bi-annual tests and use the 'unapproved' exhaust otherwise.

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the car we imported didn't need restoring

the car I'm restoring is a swiss car but being restored in the UK

I put an ad on shiply to find a transport company, I wouldn't recommend that, shiply is crap and full of conmen, found that out too late.

Whenever we need anything done, even servicing, we take the older cars to the uk, swiss prices are a joke, so unless the car has physically broken down I don't buy anything here, everything comes from online and shipped over or buy it when we're back in the uk

we're from the uk and the cars and british cars

example of prices

Alternator here - 800chf UK price about 150chf
back box 600chf - uk about 120chf
inlet manifod 2500chf - uk about 750chf

etc etc etc
@BB2, glad to hear you've solved your transport woes. Our car (previous model to yours) sailed through it's Visite last week, after our being convinced it would fail on the oil leaks problem alone! Even our mechanic was shocked on being told that it was in superb condition for a car of its age.
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Re: Importing a classic/vintage car into Switzerland

Does anyone know whether Rimmer Brothers are happy to issue a C of C for parts bought online?
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As a quick example of this; when I wanted to fit a more efficient exhaust system to one of my classic Minis that wasn't on the swiss approved list (and I simply couldn't get the manufacturer in the UK to understand what a certificate of conformity was) my only option would have been to supply the swiss with one, pay them to test it to destruction and accept their findings. Went with the older system for the bi-annual tests and use the 'unapproved' exhaust otherwise.
Yep, do that with most of my bikes as well.

Wheels, too.

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Re: Importing a classic/vintage car into Switzerland

is this michigan member just another dreamer or is he seriously considering just throwing money at a car in the USA and then paying the import duty on a fully restored vehicle which the swiss customs will assess to their idea of what it's worth and charge taxes accordingly???

and only after that get into the realms of actually trying to get it street legal here?

sorry, i can't take it seriously but i do appreciate that there are people with more money than sense.

take my advice and buy a car that's already been through all that and cost someone else a fortune.

i did.
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i did.
So you have no first hand experience with importing a car but you concluded that it must be a waste of money based on hearsay. Your argument does not get more valid if you are getting rude btw - half of Zurich's supercars are imports and I know personally several bankers who saved a medium sized five digit number on importing something as standard as a Porsche.

Given the costs of restoring anything in Switzerland will any major restoration done abroad save you way more than you can possibly have to pay on import duties. Something as banal as a paint job costs twice as much in CH as it does in neighboring countries, let alone the US.
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Re: Importing a classic/vintage car into Switzerland

I went through this post..but could find a suitable answer... here is my dilemma, just purchased in USA completely restored 1971 Plymouth Cuda.

The engine ORIGINALLY WAS a 383 replaced as it threw a rod to a 440 bored out to 493 HP Transmission also replaced from an automatic to a 6 SPEED, yes you read that correctly 6 speed. So the ENGINE and TRANSMISSION are not original however the rest of the car is. How difficult will this be import?
Car will be arriving in Belgium in the near future, I am being told as it is considered to a vintage vehicle which it is, it will get special consideration
for emissions and modifications. IF YOU HAVE IMPORTED A VINTAGE US CAR can you shed some light on my question, I am interested in YOUR
experience in importing a US Muscle car into Switzerland.
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Re: Importing a classic/vintage car into Switzerland

Hi..

I tried importing a 1984 Porsche 911 but they it didn`t pass my MFK due to having non OEM Drilled Disks in the back and since the Disks didn`t have a European Certificate I would have had to install OEM disks....

So lots of luck trying to import your Cuda, make sure you have a Plan B in case it gets rejected...

BTW before paying Import taxes try a Pre-MFK first and see how it goes....

My Porsche also can from the states through Holland and into Switzerland, no issues there...

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Re: Importing a classic/vintage car into Switzerland

Thank you very much for that... after scouring though ALL of the messages
on the forum I am speaking with https://www.tmschilter.com/ They seem to be THE GUYS or in their case the brothers.. there are 20 min outside of Zug One of the brothers speaks reasonable English...told me to send him an email
with the specifics..
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Re: Importing a classic/vintage car into Switzerland

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Dear Mr. Rellis

Please contact the local registration office (Strassenverkehrsamt) in Switzerland for information about the registration of the car. They will give you information about the registration of the car and what kind of parts are allowed/legal in Switzerland. All parts have to be customs cleared.
All information on importing a vehicle can be found on our website at:
Importation into Switzerland
https://www.ezv.admin.ch/ezv/en/home/information-individuals/road-vehicles-and-watercraft/importation-into-switzerland.html
The following documents are required for importation:
Import customs declaration
  • When you first import a vehicle into Switzerland, it is advisable to find a declarant/carrier who will take care of customs processing in return for a fee (advantages: possible time savings, support also regarding foreign customs formalities for exportation).

  • You can also carry out the import customs declaration yourself online. Information on this can be found on the website e-dec web Import. Various help functions are available (e.g. info texts, selection lists, etc.). Some basic customs knowledge is nevertheless necessary in order to be able to use e-dec web (e.g. you have to find the relevant merchandise code, or tariff heading, yourself in the Tares customs tariff, www.tares.ch).

e-dec web Import
http://www.ezv.admin.ch/ezv/en/home/customs-declaration/declaration-companies/e-dec-import/import-customs-declaration-e-dec-web.html

You must print the import customs declaration and present it with the other required documentation to the customs clearance office when entering Switzerland. The vehicle must be present. It is possible to make the declaration only during the clearance times for merchandise. The detailed opening hours are available in the list of customs offices.

List of customs offices
http://www.ezv.admin.ch/ezv/en/home/the-fca/organization/border-crossings-and-customs-offices--opening-hours.html

Required documentation:

Foreign vehicle registration document

You require the foreign vehicle registration document (cancelled if applicable) for importing the vehicle.

Sales contract

Certificate of origin (if available)

Any certificate of origin is to be presented at the time of importation. Further information can be found here: Free trade agreements, origin.

Free trade agreements, origin
http://www.ezv.admin.ch/ezv/en/home/topics/free-trade-agreements--origin.html


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Let us know how it goes with the Cuda. Beautiful muscle car!
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