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what Type of Automobile is "expected" in CH

Hi all,

When people in CH are employed professionally what type of auto are they "expected" to have? I have this thing for flashy cars however flashy cars can be over the top sometimes. Flashy does not always mean expensive.

An example of this would be a Mitsubishi EVO X. It is a fast, flashy car but not really absurdly expensive. It would cost no more than an Audi or Benz. However, is picking up a client in a "boy racer" car acceptable?

What about size? One car I have driven in Europe and like is an Audi A3. They are nice size for parking in cities. But does going to lunch/dinner/etc in a small little thing like that offend colleages?

What about 2 seat cars? Are they acceptable for professional use?

How does driving an audi/benz/bmw compare in social circles to say a VW/ford/opel?

The reason I ask this is the field I am in is medical and the position that I am looking at moving to CH for is high up in company and would be interfacing with many clients and surgeons. Surgeons in the US are high maintenance. I always try and "look the part".

I dont want to be over the top but also dont want to appear to be from a slum. I also like fast cars (and two seats are better). Looking at the fines though, I think I will leaving driving fast to visiting clients in Germany...

TIA for any help.
-Dana
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Old 14.04.2008, 06:38
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Re: what Type of Automobile is "expected" in CH

The "smart" is the vehicle of choice here.
There is a lot more awareness of environmental friendliness.

Of course, not everyone agrees

So it has be a Porsche Cayenne, 4 liter Audi or Merc (without badges of course).
Whilst sitting in Zurich rush hour, the proles will have plenty of time to admire your leased luxo-barge.
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So it has be a Porsche Cayenne, 4 liter Audi or Merc (without badges of course).
Whilst sitting in Zurich rush hour, the proles will have plenty of time to admire your leased luxo-barge.
So a VW Golf with blacked out windows and loud thumping or Turkish music is not on the list. I thought everybody looked because it was cool?.

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Re: what Type of Automobile is "expected" in CH

Speaking from a Swiss perspective, having a "flashy" car (whether its over the top or not) will do little to impress the locals - clients, colleagues or whatever. Unlike in the States, an overt display of wealth is generally frowned upon.

If you plan to live in the Zurich area, you might also want to consider taking the train/tram/bus to work. Public transportation here is efficient and comfortable. In doing so, you also won't have problems with speeding or parking fines (which are really high btw).

More importantly, you will come across as someone that is doing their bit for the environment - something that's close to the heart for many people here.
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Re: what Type of Automobile is "expected" in CH

I don't believe that doctors and surgeons are such
high maintenance as in the US.

It is more important to look professional and have
product knowledge here. An earth friendly car
would not be bad either.
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Re: what Type of Automobile is "expected" in CH

you'll find if you're using the car for professional use, it will be required to not be 2-seater and not be too flash.

Ask your employer. They have the policies, not us.
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"Expected", gawd, hope that never finds root here, bad enough where it came from.
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Hi all,

When people in CH are employed professionally what type of auto are they "expected" to have? I have this thing for flashy cars however flashy cars can be over the top sometimes. Flashy does not always mean expensive.

An example of this would be a Mitsubishi EVO X. It is a fast, flashy car but not really absurdly expensive. It would cost no more than an Audi or Benz. However, is picking up a client in a "boy racer" car acceptable?

What about size? One car I have driven in Europe and like is an Audi A3. They are nice size for parking in cities. But does going to lunch/dinner/etc in a small little thing like that offend colleages?

What about 2 seat cars? Are they acceptable for professional use?

How does driving an audi/benz/bmw compare in social circles to say a VW/ford/opel?

The reason I ask this is the field I am in is medical and the position that I am looking at moving to CH for is high up in company and would be interfacing with many clients and surgeons. Surgeons in the US are high maintenance. I always try and "look the part".

I dont want to be over the top but also dont want to appear to be from a slum. I also like fast cars (and two seats are better). Looking at the fines though, I think I will leaving driving fast to visiting clients in Germany...

TIA for any help.
-Dana
I'd say go down the middle, Audi/BMW mid range bit of comfort nothing that sticks out too much.

A3 probably ideal for day to day but a little small for clients, next on up me feels, A4/A6 maybe. See whats on the company car parks that should give you an idea.
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Saying that you could go the Nissan Skyline GTR07 or 350Z routes, both sporty and more room than a x2 seater.

http://blog.62mph.com/2007/10/16/200...an-gt-r-specs/

I'd supply sickbags and nappies for the GTR07 though looking at these specs
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Re: what Type of Automobile is "expected" in CH

Well I ride the tram every day.

If you absolutely have to have a car I would get something that is at least environmentally OK ( so no SUVs or big V8s).

If you have to have a two-seater, go for the Honda S-2000. It is very elegant and puts an instant smile on the drivers face. Though it is bare bones as fare as the ride and error-corection, so if you're not careful, you may end up in a ditch..

While I really like the new corvette and it actually is well suited for everyday driving, it has a reputation of a pimp-car here.... despite its excellent handling and low consumption when driven every day (compared to a Porsche Turbo for instance).

For a four seater, an EVO could be OK as long as it does not scream "look at me I am desperate for attention and therefore have this loud color combination"... oh yeah the number one color in Switzerland (also best value should you want to sell your car again) is silver and dark silver metallic (Anthrazit).

If you want some extra power with the ability of transporting clients comfortably, get a BMW M3 or an M5 (though the new bodies are hideous)...

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Hi all,

When people in CH are employed professionally what type of auto are they "expected" to have? I have this thing for flashy cars however flashy cars can be over the top sometimes. Flashy does not always mean expensive.

An example of this would be a Mitsubishi EVO X. It is a fast, flashy car but not really absurdly expensive. It would cost no more than an Audi or Benz. However, is picking up a client in a "boy racer" car acceptable?

What about size? One car I have driven in Europe and like is an Audi A3. They are nice size for parking in cities. But does going to lunch/dinner/etc in a small little thing like that offend colleages?

What about 2 seat cars? Are they acceptable for professional use?

How does driving an audi/benz/bmw compare in social circles to say a VW/ford/opel?

The reason I ask this is the field I am in is medical and the position that I am looking at moving to CH for is high up in company and would be interfacing with many clients and surgeons. Surgeons in the US are high maintenance. I always try and "look the part".

I dont want to be over the top but also dont want to appear to be from a slum. I also like fast cars (and two seats are better). Looking at the fines though, I think I will leaving driving fast to visiting clients in Germany...

TIA for any help.
-Dana
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I like my Audi A3 for its typical German understatement. My previous 2 cars were 'everyman' VW Golfs. There is something about anonymity and owning a wolf in sheep's clothing that appeals
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When people in CH are employed professionally what type of auto are they "expected" to have? I have this thing for flashy cars however flashy cars can be over the top sometimes. Flashy does not always mean expensive.
I've seen people driving virtually all types of cars - from poorly maintained 15 years old junks, through brand new flashy cars, ending on some 'antique' cars (old mini, old fiat 500, etc).
I think that unlike many countries car is not used to express the status of the person. It is just a tool (commute - environment friendly, low fuel consumption, big enough for the family, etc) / toy (nice for the eye, a bit flashy, sport, etc).


When it comes to professional cars then significant fraction of them are Smarts (yes, the doctors also - for the private visits, etc). They're easy to park, have low fuel consumption, "look nice".

EDIT: This is what I've observed in Genève area.
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What Lob said. Ask your company for advice anyway, as they may know that an important client has strong views on the subject.

If you might be taking clients to restaurants or wherever, definitely a 4 door rather than a 2 door. An Audi A4/A6 or equivalent Merc / BMW is what I would suggest, and if you are anticipating trips to Germany, a model which has long enough legs to be comfortable and quiet on long journeys.
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No one cares about things like cars and such here as much at they do in the US. I worked pharma back in the states so I know where you are coming from. But honestly, no one here cares as much about the materialistic things that that us Americans do.

You want to impress docs here. Learn the language, customs, and know your company material. It takes about a month before you will be talking, eating, and dressing differently.

I do highly recomend you stock up on some American products before you come though. Like special hair products, deodorant (the ones here are AWFUL!), jeans (H&M jeans costs as much as US designer jeans. And designer jeans, you need a morgage for), and if your like me who enjoys her "American white" teeth, your favorite toothpaste.
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Audi A4 wagon in the previously mentioned silver or anthracite. It's like a charcoal grey business suit here. Nobody will think you flashy for it, just practical and reserved, those sought after Swiss qualities

Never try and impress with your car in Switzerland, it's tacky to flash wealth and there is always someone in the area to embarrass you with a Bentley, Aston, Ferrari etc if you try.
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Speaking from a Swiss perspective, having a "flashy" car (whether its over the top or not) will do little to impress the locals - clients, colleagues or whatever. Unlike in the States, an overt display of wealth is generally frowned upon.

If you plan to live in the Zurich area, you might also want to consider taking the train/tram/bus to work. Public transportation here is efficient and comfortable. In doing so, you also won't have problems with speeding or parking fines (which are really high btw).

More importantly, you will come across as someone that is doing their bit for the environment - something that's close to the heart for many people here.
This is what I would have said. Indeed, any kind of car with a big spoiler/exhaust/anything big and flashy will have you branded as a mountain yokel - the Subaru Impreza with all the ralley stickers seems to be big in Uri and the like, so much so that we refer to it as a "Bauernferrari" (farmer's Ferrari).

A dark blue/black Audi A3/4 with all the tags off, however, seems to go down fairly well. A car-dealer acquaintance of mine insists that having all the badges/tags apart from the brand removed was a service first introduced in Switzerland. Not sure if it is true but it certainly fits the general attitude. As a rule - it should FEEL rather than LOOK expensive.
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