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Ferrari 360 cabriolet: 93 cars for sale, from CHF 44,900. It's beyond me why anyone would limit their search to Switzerland in the current market.
I have checked Germany and Italy, and the prices are very similar, Switzerland is actually competitive price wise in this category (wonder why?)

If you buy "abroad" then you have to go through the hassle of importing the car, including the paperwork, taxes and other expenses.

The first car in your link is a F360 with 20K km for only EUR 42.000.- That is an unbelievable deal, but it is in St. Petersburg Russia. Granted it would be a fun drive back to CH - but the documentation will be in cyrillic and I am not comfortable buying a super car in Russia (perhaps Russia is the best place to buy a super car these days?)

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There are plenty of 355s and 360s available with overlapping prices (and also some 348s!). I'm not convinced the 488 is going to have a trickle down effect on 355s and 360s at the bottom end of their price range i.e. where the OP is looking. Agreed it will impact the 458 and some of the pie in the sky prices people are trying to sell 430s for, but older cars near the bottom of their depreciation curve I just don't see.
The car may go up in price, but I am sure it will be offset by maintenance cost. It is history that I am after, and fun, and beauty, and engineering.

What I like about the F355 is:
- Last hand built Ferrari
- Has pop up lights
- Sounds amazing
- Looks like a Ferrari (but only if red)

What I do not like:
- Maintenance cost
- Storage
- People do not like you if you own a Ferrari
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Old 20.02.2015, 23:24
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- People do not like you if you own a Ferrari
Bear in mind this applies only to people who do not own a Ferrari. Who cares about them? Forget about the unwashed masses, you have all the other Ferrari owners who will like you much more!
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Old 21.02.2015, 00:21
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Bear in mind this applies only to people who do not own a Ferrari. Who cares about them? Forget about the unwashed masses, you have all the other Ferrari owners who will like you much more!
That is the problem. I do not own a Ferrari. Yet.
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Old 21.02.2015, 00:55
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I have checked Germany and Italy, and the prices are very similar, Switzerland is actually competitive price wise in this category (wonder why?)

If you buy "abroad" then you have to go through the hassle of importing the car, including the paperwork, taxes and other expenses.

The first car in your link is a F360 with 20K km for only EUR 42.000.- That is an unbelievable deal, but it is in St. Petersburg Russia. Granted it would be a fun drive back to CH - but the documentation will be in cyrillic and I am not comfortable buying a super car in Russia (perhaps Russia is the best place to buy a super car these days?)
I don't think Switzerland is particularly competitive in this field. How many cars have you seen for sale here? How do they compare, condition- and mileage-wise?

mobile.de will always give you a far wider range of cars to choose from. It's like shopping at Tesco rather than Migros.

Importing a vehicle really.is not a huge hassle. I've just brought one in from Germany without resorting to.an agent -- I spent maybe two hours on the importation. Sure, you'll have to pay fees and taxes amounting to about 10% of the purchase price (much, much more if the car is less than 3 months old) but as long as you include this in your price calculations, you'll be fine.

Remember, prices are always negotiable and if you buy through a dealer abroad, you may be able to get VAT refunded (which more than covers the cost of importing the vehicle).
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Oh, to be young again. #damnyouparenthood

If I can't squeeze two baby seats in the back, unfortunately it's a non-starter these days.
Ferrari California has two seats at the back for the children and I'm contemplating on the logistics but haven't tried putting a baby seat at the back.

I'm thinking of getting a California but I'm wrestling with the thought that if I buy one then I'll be put off having a 3rd child and I love children more than cars.

For a big ticket item like a Ferrari, I would subscribe to a Ferrari owners club and get to know down of the owners and their cars and then buy it off them if they are willing to sell as you would know more about the car by then. Or alternative buy one from the dealer that's 2 to 3 years old.
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Re: Buying a Ferrari

I actually bought one about a week ago. F360, 2003, 20´500 km, with 12 months guarantee (bumper to bumper). Cost me CHF 75.000.-





Also, sold my MX5 on this forum. Will be sad to see her go, but she is going to a good home.

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Old 31.03.2015, 20:50
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I actually bought one about a week ago. F360, 2003, 20´500 km, with 12 months guarantee (bumper to bumper). Cost me CHF 75.000.-

What a beauty! Congrats and see on the Stelvio pass
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Great car WT, let me know if you get board of it.
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Re: Buying a Ferrari

WOW, congrats on the F360 Spyder.

Even thought I am a huge fan of the F355 design and would not trade a F355 berlinetta for a F360 (unless it's a Challenge Stradale), I have to say that in the convertible form the F360 is really really beautiful.

Can you post photos of the interior? Thanks!
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Re: Buying a Ferrari

Sorry, don't have any interior pictures yet, but looks mint, and is black leather with red stitching.

I was initially going to get a F355 GTS but the are few and far between, plus the potential maintenance cost frightened me a bit.

If you have a F355 then we are organizing a summer drive here in Switzerland over at FerrariChat.com. You should join us.
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Old 02.04.2015, 15:28
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need to organise another pass run this year (not just for ferrari's)
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need to organise another pass run this year (not just for ferrari's)
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Re: Buying a Ferrari

This garage in Etoy has a nice selection of luxury cars.

http://www.peregocars.com/en/cars

They have a "cheap" one for sale (348ts convertible) although understand one might want to stay away from this model.
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Yes, the 348 is not the best Ferrari, but still a cool looking car.
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Re: Buying a Ferrari

Dear EFers,
What is your view on this one? It's the cheapest of the cheap... it's been reposted again on Autoscout. I always dreamed of owning a ferrari!

http://www.autoscout24.ch/de/d/ferra...?vehid=4428640

Cost of a service, crappy performance - but it is a manual could it be an investment op?
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Dear EFers,
What is your view on this one? It's the cheapest of the cheap... it's been reposted again on Autoscout. I always dreamed of owning a ferrari!

http://www.autoscout24.ch/de/d/ferra...?vehid=4428640

Cost of a service, crappy performance - but it is a manual could it be an investment op?
if it would be a good investment, it would be much more expensive now.
just compare the price with a 308/328
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Re: Buying a Ferrari

sorry but having driven a mondial i'd have to say don't even think about it, its crap in every single department, steering is a joke, brakes are non existent, they are not fast, if you just want a piece of art work then ok, if you want to actually drive it - it will kill you

also bare in mind these older ferarris you can't just jump in and drive, you have to warm them up, a top tip I was given was if you can jump in, turn it on and get into 1st gear then its screwed (mondials and 308's)

its also go OLD itallian electrics, and even though its only 20k it'll still have the running costs and bills of a ferrari, so unless you are very handy indeed with the spanners - just don't

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its also go OLD itallian electrics, and even though its only 20k it'll still have the running costs and bills of a ferrari, so unless you are very handy indeed with the spanners - just don't
Old electrics are all the same.

Even if you do all your own work, Ferrari's (particularly of that era and later) are challenging, if not tedious, to repair.

That car is listed for 20K because it is worth something in the order of 20K. If it were going to massively appreciate in value by a bit of TLC someone would have given it that TLC.

otoh, 20K is a pretty cheap way to get Ferrari's out of your system, add another 5K maintenance and running costs over a 3 year period and you are almost in the range of what a rusted E-Type which someone else has already disassembled (and lost bits from) would set you back.
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Re: Buying a Ferrari

if you haven't seen it, download the top gear episode where they all bought old supercars for 10k or less, one of those was and old ferrari (gt4 iirc)

that is exactly what your ownership experience would be like not sure what the prices are like in the uk now, but at the time mondials could easily be bought for less then 10k, and really bad ones where 5k
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