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Slightly OT question:

Do I need to extend my B driving license to tow a car? I think the B cat allows up to 3.5ton gross weight, including towed, so what's the cat that I would need if I would like to occasionally tow a car (plus some parts and tools)?
You need BE on your licence - an old code which basically means "you know what the f^&$ you are doing"

BE: Category B vehicles with trailer when combined weight of vehicle and trailer is over 3,500kg

Some of us have D1E
D1E: Vehicles with up to 16 passenger seats plus driver with trailer over 750kg if combined trailer and vehicle weight isnít over 12,000kg
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Old 10.12.2015, 09:02
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Re: Recommended cars for sale

Plucked from the VW discussion I thought I'd have a nosey around used prices.

A quick (non-complete search) revealed quite a compression in the market. A good condition 2001-2004 Passat Estate - diesel - with under 200k on the clock is going to cost (with fresh MFK, service) around 3,500-6,000 depending on spec, KMs etc

A 10 year younger model (2011) with the naughty diesel engine - and good spec (cruise, xenons, navi, heated seats) are around 12-13k. Rising to 16-18k to have it with leather, active cruise, towbar and the 170ps engine.

And astonishingly if you're the sort of driver who is likely to incur a little parking damage this 1.8TSi is a bargain at under 10k.
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Old 10.12.2015, 10:39
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The 2011 generation Passat is literally the dullest car ever though. I had a couple of them as short term company cars, and frankly I was delighted to be given a diesel Civic as a replacement which says a lot!

I'm not one for the whole 'why buy a VW when a Skoda is the same car but cheaper' thing as I like my flock lined cubby holes and nice ambient lighting, but in this case I'd buy the Skoda. Either an Octavia or a Superb depending on how much space you need, but both are nicer cars in my view, and they don't have the troublesome electric parking brake of the Passat.
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Old 10.12.2015, 10:56
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The 2011 generation Passat is literally the dullest car ever though. I had a couple of them as short term company cars, and frankly I was delighted to be given a diesel Civic as a replacement which says a lot!

I'm not one for the whole 'why buy a VW when a Skoda is the same car but cheaper' thing as I like my flock lined cubby holes and nice ambient lighting, but in this case I'd buy the Skoda. Either an Octavia or a Superb depending on how much space you need, but both are nicer cars in my view, and they don't have the troublesome electric parking brake of the Passat.
I want to agree and disagree with you!!
I do feel Skoda offers good value in the market but the price differences are small between the 2 - and from a personal perspective I'd pay any small premium for the much nicer cabin and trim. Carpet in particular seems a Skoda weak area. I also think the Passat is a better looking car and has the superior image.

Either Skoda or VW - you are getting a lot of well put together car for 12-15k - if you are happy to skirt emission issues

As for the car being dull - you won't find me disagreeing on that!!
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Old 10.12.2015, 11:13
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I don't actually think the Passat interior is any nicer than the Octavia, and I definitely prefer the Superb inside.

I'm more of an SUV person really, but if I had to buy a 'non-premium' family estate car then I'd be going for a Subaru Legacy or Ford Mondeo, with a Honda Accord as third choice.

In fact, I'd buy this one (may not be suitable for anyone who is more sensible and fuel conscious than me )

If someone made me put on my sensible trousers though, I wouldn't buy your dull and damaged VW, but would have this instead.
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Old 10.12.2015, 11:18
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If someone made me put on my sensible trousers though, I wouldn't buy your dull and damaged VW, but would have this instead.
I'd be opting for something moderator approved

It doesn't sound too bad (a tad muted perhaps), goes well and is a competent all rounder.
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Old 10.12.2015, 11:34
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I'd be opting for something moderator approved

It doesn't sound too bad (a tad muted perhaps), goes well and is a competent all rounder.
That looks OK, about the only Passat I would actually consider, and reasonable value for the performance on offer too.
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Old 10.12.2015, 14:45
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Re: Recommended cars for sale

Further to my previous musings, I'm finding on Autoscout a few dealer ex-demo cars at reasonable discounts (must be the time of year to knock them out before new year new models).

What are general feelings about buying an ex-demo car?
On the face of it you could think steer well clear, but if it's from a main dealer, you could also think that it's been in the workshop, checked and prepped, for sale, so could be no more risky than buying from Joe Public or Arthur Daly Car Sales.

I've just come across a C3 Picasso 1.6 VTi Selection, well equipped (ish), from March 2015, with 8K km, for 15,900.

It's obviously had well over half the year being messed about with by dodgy geezers and their WAGs, but it should have been sorted out for selling .......

...... shouldn't it?


Back in the day, I ended up being the second owner of a Dolly Sprint, which was BL dealership ex-demo car ..... and that was a sweetheart (I did buy it off a mechanic, though, who originally bought it from the dealership and had played around a little bit with it).
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Old 10.12.2015, 14:55
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No problem with buying an ex demo car, in reality most of them are actually company cars for the dealership staff anyway.

If you like the C3 Picasso then that's fine, but I know a couple of people who had them and hated them, one p/x'd his after 5 months because he disliked it so much. The dash reflects in the windscreen when it's dark and it feels incredibly 'disconnected' to drive, but I do quite like the look of them from the outside.

Given you're coming from an old Kangoo, have you looked at a Dacia Dokker? You'll get a new one for 10k or one with some extras like cruise and nav for well under 15.
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Old 10.12.2015, 15:05
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I found the car - my humble thoughts:
- Front and rear seats look very basic
- The dash lacks the flair of the Cactus
- The colour

35% off the new price - not too bad - but I'd still go for the Cactus or Soul
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Old 10.12.2015, 15:09
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No problem with buying an ex demo car, in reality most of them are actually company cars for the dealership staff anyway.

If you like the C3 Picasso then that's fine, but I know a couple of people who had them and hated them, one p/x'd his after 5 months because he disliked it so much. The dash reflects in the windscreen when it's dark and it feels incredibly 'disconnected' to drive, but I do quite like the look of them from the outside.

Given you're coming from an old Kangoo, have you looked at a Dacia Dokker? You'll get a new one for 10k or one with some extras like cruise and nav for well under 15.
Forgot about the Dokker - the Duster was at one time on my radar, but has slipped a bit down the list, now.

As I am only considering petrol models, I have the problem that the 1.6l Dacia's use an updated version of the engine I have in the Kangoo, which is always a bit underpowered and laboured. If the gearbox is similar, too, it's geared about half a gear too low and each gear is bit short for my liking.

The other problem with Dacia is my missus - she worked in Bucharest in the early nineties and can't get the image of pre-Renault versions in their natural habitat, out of her head, every time I mention the name. Same with Skoda, when I was looking at Yeti's.
(.... and the Dokker is quite a fat ugly bird, too).

Regarding the Picasso, it just came out in the search results, as I'm still playing with a general search criteria ..... and seeing what comes out (I've had to omit towbar, though as that was too limiting, and get that fitted extra).
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I'd be opting for something moderator approved

It doesn't sound too bad (a tad muted perhaps), goes well and is a competent all rounder.
For similar price I bought Toyota Avensis automatic 2010 2.2l Diesel (no gasket problem ), 120kkm, version Sol Plus with fresh big service and MFK done - I wonder how would they compare :]
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what about this one?
it kinda looks like a BMW and is more rare than a Bugatti.

www.autoscout24.ch/3619359
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I found the car - my humble thoughts:
- Front and rear seats look very basic
- The dash lacks the flair of the Cactus
- The colour

35% off the new price - not too bad - but I'd still go for the Cactus or Soul
Quite liked the colour ... But I like to be unconformist.

I really think the Cactus is out .... 1.2 petrol too weak and I can't really consider the 1.6 diesel, because I think all my short journeys would shag the motor over time (more than it is already).

I'm still up for the Soul too, although the missus is throwing crap into the fan, by searching at work and considering the most unsuitable rubbish, because she does't know all the ins and outs.



ETA Ahhh.... I emailed her the Picasso link, before posting here, and she's quite keen ...... probably already booking in a test drive.
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what about this one?
it kinda looks like a BMW and is more rare than a Bugatti.

www.autoscout24.ch/3619359
Erm...what would you like to transport in it? Air?
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what about this one?
it kinda looks like a BMW and is more rare than a Bugatti.

www.autoscout24.ch/3619359
They're hilarious, actually, they're everywhere in China, the best selling vehicle type in the country. They are all either licence-built versions of the old Bedford Rascal/Suzuki SuperCarry, or 'illegal' copies of the same thing. A lot of them are sold as 8 seater people carriers too!
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the best selling vehicle type in the country.
That's not true and never has been... the first time I went to China were at least 70% of the cars on the road VW Santanas. And since then has the number one vehicle type always been sedans. All of which need to be black for some reason. Not as many VW and Audi as before, but still the dominant brands around. Minivans are all over South East Asia from the Philippines to Indonesia and Malaysia but are nowhere near as big in China.
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That's not true and never has been... the first time I went to China were at least 70% of the cars on the road VW Santanas. And since then has the number one vehicle type always been sedans. All of which need to be black for some reason. Not as many VW and Audi as before, but still the dominant brands around. Minivans are all over South East Asia from the Philippines to Indonesia and Malaysia but are nowhere near as big in China.
In the cities there are loads of Santanas, yes, but the rest of the country if full of mini vans just like the rest of Asia. They cost about $3k and are less safe than poking a hungry polar bear so there aren't many in the more affluent areas but where the people are poorer this is pretty much all you see.
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I was reading another thread about a BMW 3 series and this got me interested to look for a young used one. What would be a preferred engine? Not all underpinnings are the same I understand and these are linked with the engine chosen. It would be doing some 15K km a year.
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I was reading another thread about a BMW 3 series and this got me interested to look for a young used one. What would be a preferred engine? Not all underpinnings are the same I understand and these are linked with the engine chosen. It would be doing some 15K km a year.
How old would you like the car to be? Which 3 series generation? Petrol or Diesel?

Any petrol 6 cylinder BMW engine is wonderful. The 335i is a 6 cylinder turbo and is a beast, unfortunately some model years suffer with defective injectors and coils, all very costly parts.
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