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Old 01.11.2009, 00:33
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Re: Having an Ariel Atom

A colleague has the KTM, with Swiss permit (Swiss street legal I mean), just in case you are interested.

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Old 01.11.2009, 20:53
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Re: Having an Ariel Atom

Ferrariboy,

Instead of wasting time on those exotic cars which you can't buy here and import here, I suggest you to buy Nissan GTR: http://fr.nissan.ch/#vehicles/sports-cars/gt-r

Well, it might not be as good in torque in stock as Atom, but take a look at this video taken in Moscow, the boys did a little tuning to GTR and it was able to win race with ZX-14 !!!:
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Old 02.11.2009, 00:37
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Re: Having an Ariel Atom

I have to admit until Friday evening I had no idea what one of these was. My date for the evening enlightened me and told me after we saw an Astin Martin drive past us he'd rather have one of these and it was his dream car..... (I swear it's pure coincidence this cropped up in our conversation and it's also a thread on the EF)

He then showed me the youtube clip...this car rocks (even if it is ugly) it beat a Honda CBR 600 RR on a race track... by 4 seconds thats fast!
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Old 02.11.2009, 01:06
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it beat a Honda CBR 600 RR on a race track... by 4 seconds thats fast!
As a CBR600 driver I can admit, that all depends on driver in this case. Motocycle has faster acceleration in short distances ...
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Old 02.11.2009, 01:21
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As a CBR600 driver I can admit, that all depends on driver in this case. Motocycle has faster acceleration in short distances ...
i don't dispute that and if you watch the following clip you'll see that the atom made most of the time up in the bends.....

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I have to admit until Friday evening I had no idea what one of these was. My date for the evening enlightened me and told me after we saw an Astin Martin drive past us he'd rather have one of these and it was his dream car..... (I swear it's pure coincidence this cropped up in our conversation and it's also a thread on the EF)

He then showed me the youtube clip...this car rocks (even if it is ugly) it beat a Honda CBR 600 RR on a race track... by 4 seconds thats fast!
You went on a date and watched YOU TUBE video's?

Was that back at your place, or over at his?
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Old 04.11.2009, 11:01
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i don't dispute that and if you watch the following clip you'll see that the atom made most of the time up in the bends.....
Of course, I am not Valentino Rossi, but the guy on CBR seems too inefficient for me. First, they could show us the speeds on speedometers, as the very first turn was a "high-speed turn" which motocyclist could pass quite fast without extra breakings.
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Old 04.11.2009, 13:03
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Re: Having an Ariel Atom

A few years ago I went to a track day and a friend took his supercharged Atom. On the way there the brake lights went. 20 min into the session, the engine blew.

They are not that loud btw. Flippin fast though.

You can get an Exige over here though.
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Old 04.11.2009, 13:13
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Re: Having an Ariel Atom

I tried to import an Ariel Atom, but it's painfully complicated.

Swiss automotive (homologation) laws are quirky and some things here just don't fly. The Atom for example has no windscreen, and whilst I passed a number of tests on the bubble screens (an option), it was not sufficient.

In addition, the Mark 2 Atom Honda engines were not Euro compliant in this country (the new ones on the Mark 3 should be).

In the end, apart from a few French or English owners that use their French/UK license plates here on their Atom (they live part time in Switzerland, so it's "barely" legal for them to do this), it's almost impossible to get a road legal Atom in Switzerland.

The Belgian dealer promised me that if you buy one through them, they'll do everything necessary to homologate the Atom for street use in Switzerland. If track use is all you want, then there's a dealer in Switzerland who can get you an Atom "purely" for track use.

Without the silencer/muffler, the Atom makes a lot of noise and will surpass the sound limits on a great deal of tracks in the UK (the atom club forum has gone to some length about this), but in the end you might just be better off getting the KTM (if you can) or a Lotus.

Speaking of Lotus, another anal Swiss law dictates that a rear-view mirror must be installed on a car and yet, you can't see a thing when driving an Exige S due to the supercharger air intake which flanks the rear window...

They're just terrible here in Switzerland and the part of buying one in the UK and importing it a year later to Switzerland sounds like the only real way to do this.

Good luck to anyone who manages.
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Re: Having an Ariel Atom

KTM Crossbow > Arial Atom
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Regardless of whether the car will be allowed on Swiss roads, things might get complicated if you're planning on living in Switzerland for more than one year. Within 12 months of moving here, you'll have to convert your driver's license into a Swiss one, which means you are not allowed to drive foreign cars within Switzerland! So keeping foreign numberplates (illegally, or by putting the car on your Dad's name) is not a long-term solution.
I can't find any reference online saying that with a Swiss license you can no longer drive foreign cars within Switzerland. Please could you point me in the direction of where it says this?
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Old 04.11.2009, 23:44
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Re: Having an Ariel Atom

The atom is built in a village near where I grew up. Theres a great story of a guy that bought one on delivery of the car you have 2 choices delivered to your doorstep or you can pick it up from the factory/shed.

This guy picked it up himself managed about 2miles down the country roads and wrote the car off completely wiping out into a ditch. They had to completely re build the car the next time he asked for it to be delivered to his door.

He paid twice for the car too expensive mistake. Nice car though personally i prefer classics
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Re: Having an Ariel Atom

I went down to the Ariel factory to see them build the cars, it's a fantastic place to visit, and the owner is a great car guy to speak to.
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Old 05.11.2009, 00:01
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Re: Having an Ariel Atom

Can you buy a Caterham in Switzerland? That would be a blast too.
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Re: Having an Ariel Atom

I know of a few people who have variants of the caterham. Lotus Super 7 or Donkervoorts are legal here surprisingly, and there's a local club member (of an Automotive Club that I attend to - PM me for details) that comes in one.
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Re: Having an Ariel Atom

Taking about Ariel Atom.

Jocelyn Quivrin died yesterday in a car accident while driving his Ariel Atom: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jocelyn_Quivrin according to Wikipedia:

Jocelyn Quivrin est mort le dimanche 15 novembre 2009 dans un accident de la route sur l'autoroute A134. Il a perdu le contrôle de son Ariel Atom (petite voiture de course, biplace à carosserie ouverte, non homologuée en France) à l'entrée du tunnel de Saint-Cloud. Son véhicule a pris feu; bloqué dans l'habitacle, l'acteur est mort en dépit de l'intervention des pompiers.
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Re: Having an Ariel Atom

Looks fun. I don't know much about cars. I thought this thread was going to be about a new brand of washing powder.
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I can't find any reference online saying that with a Swiss license you can no longer drive foreign cars within Switzerland. Please could you point me in the direction of where it says this?
This is actually the case in many (European) countries, to avoid tax dodging. As far as Switzerland is concerned, you could check with the Strassenverkehrsamt.

http://www.strassenverkehrsamt.ch/
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This is actually the case in many (European) countries, to avoid tax dodging. As far as Switzerland is concerned, you could check with the Strassenverkehrsamt.

http://www.strassenverkehrsamt.ch/
Taking the UK as an example, you can't be the registered keeper of a vehicle on foreign plates with a UK license. You are right, it is to do with tax laws however it is all in the intention.

For instance, if you buy a car in the UK and intend to bring it to Switzerland, you can drive it from the UK, on UK plates, with a Swiss license, provided your intention is to import it into Switzerland and therefore pay taxes.

Equally you are, certainly in the UK, able to drive a foreign plated car provided it is not yours.
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I tried to import an Ariel Atom, but it's painfully complicated.

Swiss automotive (homologation) laws are quirky and some things here just don't fly. The Atom for example has no windscreen, and whilst I passed a number of tests on the bubble screens (an option), it was not sufficient.

In addition, the Mark 2 Atom Honda engines were not Euro compliant in this country (the new ones on the Mark 3 should be).

In the end, apart from a few French or English owners that use their French/UK license plates here on their Atom (they live part time in Switzerland, so it's "barely" legal for them to do this), it's almost impossible to get a road legal Atom in Switzerland.

The Belgian dealer promised me that if you buy one through them, they'll do everything necessary to homologate the Atom for street use in Switzerland. If track use is all you want, then there's a dealer in Switzerland who can get you an Atom "purely" for track use.

Without the silencer/muffler, the Atom makes a lot of noise and will surpass the sound limits on a great deal of tracks in the UK (the atom club forum has gone to some length about this), but in the end you might just be better off getting the KTM (if you can) or a Lotus.
The latest Atom has a windscreen option. And a new Honda engine that passes the tests. And it's quieter. And it therefore should be easier to homologate. Doesn't mean the Swiss won't find something else to baulk at...
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