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Hello everyone,

this August I will be moving from Holland to Zurich. I'm very much looking forward to it . As I am a car fanatic and like to tour during the weekends, I am very interested in the Ariel Atom 3. It is one of the fastest cars at the moment. It is also one of the more extreme cars as it is made from a metal pipe construction. The problem is that I do not know whether it is possible to get a "street zulassung". The german dealer thought that was not possible and I can still not find a swiss dealer .

But as I am from Holland, would it be allowed to buy the car in Holland and use it occasionally in Switzerland for holidays (even though the car type itself does not have this "street zulassung")? I don't need the car in Switzerland during the winter or autumn period anyway.

I really hope someone can explain me something more on this.
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Old 03.05.2008, 13:07
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Hello everyone,

this August I will be moving from Holland to Zurich. I'm very much looking forward to it . As I am a car fanatic and like to tour during the weekends, I am very interested in the Ariel Atom 3. It is one of the fastest cars at the moment. It is also one of the more extreme cars as it is made from a metal pipe construction. The problem is that I do not know whether it is possible to get a "street zulassung". The german dealer thought that was not possible and I can still not find a swiss dealer .

But as I am from Holland, would it be allowed to buy the car in Holland and use it occasionally in Switzerland for holidays (even though the car type itself does not have this "street zulassung")? I don't need the car in Switzerland during the winter or autumn period anyway.

I really hope someone can explain me something more on this.
Many thanks in advance!
Hi,
There is as you know no dealers for this car type in Switzerland nor is there a Swiss type certificate so trying to register one here would be somewhat expensive because the importer (no dealership), which is you would be liable for all costs of certification.
I would also doubt the Atom would meet Swiss noise and exhaust emissions requirements. Some safety issues might also be a problem.
The Swiss reserve the right not to admit any motor vehicle into the country. I know of two cases where people have been denied access for their cars. One a Porsche 935 and the other a TVR.
Personally I think it would be far less hassle if you did not try to bring it in, but you never know.
Also remember that even if you get past the border (like driving across an unmanned one), you will be driving around with a target on your back for the Polizei. I can see you being pulled over very quickly to be quite honest.
The other issue is the countries you have to pass through to get here. The Germans or the French might get you first.
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Re: Having an Ariel Atom

Ooops, I thought Ariel Atom 3 was some kind of washing detergent....
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I can see you being pulled over very quickly to be quite honest.
Assuming they could catch him
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Assuming they could catch him
A picture of Jeremy Clarkson test driving the Atom.

Imagine what the French highways agency would make upon seeing that on their speed camera film
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Re: Having an Ariel Atom

There was such a vehicle at Morges this last October, British-registered, so if they can drive to Morges from the UK, I see no reason why you could not bring a Dutch registered vehicle here for the summer months. If I remember correctly after 1 full year here you would have problems if you did not register the car.
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Re: Having an Ariel Atom

Ariel atoms are sold in DE, FR, BE, LU, NL, ES, Malta (if you care...), SE and NO as well as UK (in Europe).

I am planning on buying one and importing it. I am speaking with Ariel.

If its on foreign plates, the border controls won't care, keeping it here for a year (if you are the registered owner) is a liitle trickier. My suggestion is you register it to your Dad etc and make sure you are a main driver. If you are only planning on bringing it down from the Netherlands occasionally or for summer months it should be fine.
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Re: Having an Ariel Atom

There surely has to be a way for you to have an Atom in Switzerland, registered here properly too- I guess there is just a massive amount of red tape involved. I don't see why it would be possible, and you would hope that the costs would not be prohibitive. Am I right in thinking that if the car is registered elsewhere in the EU first you would have far fewer problems with type approval etc.? I would also think that Ariel may be able to help you out with some of the documentation/type approval if you are willing to buy one of their cars from them!

Unusual sports/kit cars are of interest to me as I would love to build myself an Ultima GTR but off the top of my head, getting it registered in Switzerland would be a nightmare. But I have seen AC cobra kit car replicas over here (you can find them on Autoscout), so it must be possible somehow!
This post probably doesn't help the OP to much, but a bit of encouragement to other petrol heads in Switzerland is a good thing!
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Old 14.05.2008, 22:25
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If its on foreign plates, the border controls won't care, keeping it here for a year (if you are the registered owner) is a liitle trickier. My suggestion is you register it to your Dad etc and make sure you are a main driver. If you are only planning on bringing it down from the Netherlands occasionally or for summer months it should be fine.
I disagree. The fact that it's on foreign plates does not mean that it does not have to comply to the swiss street laws.
If such a car is not allowed to be driven on public roads in switzerland, then I think the plates make no difference. It would be quite a bummer to have it seized just because you thought you were bypassing the system. See what happened to the 5 geniuses on brand new ferraris and lambos last week.

Ferrariboy: I love the Atom ever since I saw Clarkson driving it for the first time, but as good Jeremy taught us, Switzerland is the last place on earth you want to bring that little gem. If you could rent a parking spot in Germany, on the other hand, and program regular trips to some racetracks... now that would be interesting
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Am I right in thinking that if the car is registered elsewhere in the EU first you would have far fewer problems with type approval etc.?
No, you are wrong. There is no "elsewhere in the EU" since Switzerland is not part of the EU. Importing any vehicle, no matter how mainstream it might be, does involve thorough and expensive "technical checks"... just to be sure that for example a German BMW is the same as a Swiss one! I can imagine that an imported atom will cause a lot of trouble if the type is not "generally approved" here. I read an article about an enthusiast with a Skyline GTR who spent a five digit number to get it street legal here...

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I disagree. The fact that it's on foreign plates does not mean that it does not have to comply to the swiss street laws.
I can tell you that I lived in Switzerland for a whole year keeping my German number. I got never checked once at the border entering Switzerland. Now they check me every time, I guess I look like I buy cheaper stuff abroad (I do). So I assume that keeping a Dutch number will improve your chance...
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Re: Having an Ariel Atom

Regardless of whether the car will be allowed on Swiss roads, things might get complicated if you're planning on living in Switzerland for more than one year. Within 12 months of moving here, you'll have to convert your driver's license into a Swiss one, which means you are not allowed to drive foreign cars within Switzerland! So keeping foreign numberplates (illegally, or by putting the car on your Dad's name) is not a long-term solution.
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Re: Having an Ariel Atom

I am sorry, but with my Swiss license I am for sure allowed to drive a car with a foreign number in Switzerland. If my dad visits me, I am allowed to drive around in his car.
To my knowledge, it only gets tricky, if the foreign car is yours and you decide to "station" it outside of the country. As usual, the cops are after the money, in this case the tax you do not pay here...
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I am sorry, but with my Swiss license I am for sure allowed to drive a car with a foreign number in Switzerland. If my dad visits me, I am allowed to drive around in his car.
To my knowledge, it only gets tricky, if the foreign car is yours and you decide to "station" it outside of the country. As usual, the cops are after the money, in this case the tax you do not pay here...
The fact that you are doing it, doesn't make it legal I know a few people who got in trouble for not knowing this rule.

If cops are in a good mood, you'll probably get off with a warning if the owner of the car is sitting next to you, but I doubt whether TS is planning on driving around with his dad (or whoever) all summer.


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Re: Having an Ariel Atom

Wakey is correct on this point. The biggest problem anyone with a Swiss license & foreign plates would be at the border. You would be liable for import & export taxes everytime you cross it, I have a link to the relevant legislation somewhere I will try to find it & post it here.

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I am sorry, but with my Swiss license I am for sure allowed to drive a car with a foreign number in Switzerland. If my dad visits me, I am allowed to drive around in his car.
To my knowledge, it only gets tricky, if the foreign car is yours and you decide to "station" it outside of the country. As usual, the cops are after the money, in this case the tax you do not pay here...
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A picture of Jeremy Clarkson test driving the Atom.

Imagine what the French highways agency would make upon seeing that on their speed camera film
Is that a hamster in his top pocket?

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Re: Having an Ariel Atom

I called Areil, UK HQ and DE sales guy. No way to get one into CH until 2010 when the law may change.

They had a Swiss Dealer but basically failed twice to get it to work, they tried from the UK and failed. The German apparently failed.
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Re: Having an Ariel Atom

Guys

I think there is one way of getting the car street legal in CH. If you leave in the UK, buy the car, keep it for one year, then move to Switzerland and take it in as Übersiedlungsgut, which basically means that you don't have to go through all those extra checks (noise, etc).

I just did that with a vintage car. Obviously, not very convenient but at least a way of doing it.

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Re: Having an Ariel Atom

Hmmm for vintage cars, in general, different rules apply. It sounds weird to me that a car that has never been approved as street legal can be so easily imported.
But if there's such a loophole, let's take advantage of it!

Who wants to share one?
http://www.firebox.com/product/246/Ariel-Atom
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Re: Having an Ariel Atom

Guys

This has nothing to do with vintage cars. The procedure is the same with every car you bring over. Only condition is that you have to move on the same time and you owned the car for a year already. In Switzerland you are not allowed to sell the car for another year.

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PS: Happy to share one, if somebody moves to Switzerland
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Re: Having an Ariel Atom

Hello everyone



Just wondering if anyone has more recent info on this topic? What
are the rule changes that are going to happen in 2010?

I'm interested in an Ultima GTR too!!


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