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Old 05.06.2019, 15:31
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Re: Driving via Gotthard tunnel - never again!

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Maths was never my strong point! Of course I realised the tunnel would have to be clear, and they have plenty of cameras to ensure that, but I guess my idea is not really workable.
It could be workable - but only if a direction is blocked for far longer than 20 minutes - maybe at least 1h, possibly even more? For instance, blocking southbound direction on Sunday evenings between 16:00 and 18:00 pm would probably reduce the northbound queues significantly - instead of one side waiting for 5 hours, both sides would wait for at most 2 hours...

This would require some serious changes (signalling, guiding lanes) in the tunnel and quite a bit of traffic discipline management to get it to work though
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Re: Driving via Gotthard tunnel - never again!

The current procedures are in place for safety reasons.

Increasing the number of vehicles would counter that, thus you won't see an increase in throughput with the today's infrastructure.
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Re: Driving via Gotthard tunnel - never again!

Introducing a charge would reduce the traffic.
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Introducing a charge would reduce the traffic.
Doubt it. The traffic problems are mostly only around holidays - in regular weekdays there's almost no queues at all. And people going on holidays will just pay the tax. Mont Blanc tunnel has extortionate fees but still gets blocked at holiday peak times.

In fact, imposing preferential directional traffic at peak times wouldn't be such a bad idea given the amount of time wasted at those events
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Old 08.06.2019, 17:19
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Re: Driving via Gotthard tunnel - never again!

Oh dear, it's Pentecost bank holiday Saturday, and it's as grim as ever at the Gotthard.
A crash at Amsteg meant 8km queues at 6am near Amsteg.
Ballpark figures from the TCS Twitter feed:
10am, 10km southbound (over 2 hours)
Midday, 18km - 19km (over 4 hours)
3pm, 15km
5pm, 6km
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Old 08.06.2019, 17:32
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Re: Driving via Gotthard tunnel - never again!

Why arenít they loading cars onto trains using the billion franc investment of the Swiss taxpayers? At very least carrying the German and Italian cars avoiding the Swiss roads?
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Re: Driving via Gotthard tunnel - never again!

This weekend seems like some big 'holiday starting' affair.


Friday July 19th, queues upto 10km from lunchtime onwards, still 5km at midinght and overnight.


Saturday 20th, 11km at 6am, 14km at 7am , that's getting on for 3 hours in the queue. 9am, 11km.
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Old 20.07.2019, 09:59
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Solution would be to stop holidaying by car and use public transport or plane instead. My back and legs already hurt from continuously being fixed in the same sitting position and from using brake and gas pedals.
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