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Old 09.08.2015, 16:24
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Geneva to Amsterdam - via France or Germany?

Hi there,

We plan on driving from Geneva area to Amsterdam on a Wednesday early afternoon. We'll drive for about 6-7 hours, stay a night somewhere along the way, then finish the drive the next morning.

The suggested route seems to be via the A31 in France, bringing us through Luxembourg and Belgium. But would it save time to go through Switzerland into Germany and take advantage of the autobahn, and if so, what route is least likely to be backed up?

Or... any other tips?

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Re: Geneva to Amsterdam - via France or Germany?

Since nobody replied, I give you my own experience:

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The suggested route seems to be via the A31 in France, bringing us through Luxembourg and Belgium. But would it save time to go through Switzerland into Germany and take advantage of the autobahn, and if so, what route is least likely to be backed up?

Or... any other tips?
German route hands down.

For the following reasons:

1) Toll/Péages/Maut: via France: 2 x 35 € (one way), via Germany: 2 x 0 €*

* Provided you already have the Swiss vignette autoroutière, which is the case since you live in Pays-de-Gex which should have been part of canton GE in a perfect world.

A40 is one of the most expensive autoroutes in France (cost/km) between Viry toll plaza (gare de péage de Viry) and Bourg-Tossiat.

2) A31 between Toul and F/L border is a freeway and also one of the crappiest autoroutes in France. Whenever a French autoroute is a freeway (autoroute non concédée), expect poor amenities, dirty bathrooms, congestions/pollutions, bad pavement... This is also true for Italy (freeway vs. turnpike).

3) Wallonia has some of the bumpiest autoroutes I have ever seen.
Okay, not like this or this but pretty much like this. Best way to test your shock absorbers or piss off your sleeping kids...

4) German Raststätte are usually cheaper than French aires de service.

5) Beautiful Rhine river scenery


Via France: avoid A6 (Macon-Beaune), use the newer and less congested A39 instead.


Via Germany: avoid A3, A67 and A5 north of Heidelberg.

From Basel Weil, keep driving north on A5, take A6 at Walldorf jct (A5 exit #40) and head towards Mannheim* and immediately after 5 km take A61 (A6 Exit #30) and head towards Koblenz/RP. That way you bypass most German congestions... Keep driving on A61 till you reach the D-NL border and follow signs to Eindhoven / Utrecht / Amsterdam.

* Make sure you don't take A6 towards Heilbronn


ENJOY YOUR TRIP and tell us which route you finally took
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Old 11.08.2015, 12:06
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Re: Geneva to Amsterdam - via France or Germany?

Super informative, thanks Ramtin[e]!

We will likely take your advice.

Will try to remember to post our experience
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Re: Geneva to Amsterdam - via France or Germany?

Keep an eye on the weather report: Last week I drove from Trier to Zurich and chose the Alsace over Germany for a single reason: Some parts of the Autobahn between Karlsruhe and Basel are so old that they are made of concrete instead of tarmac. As soon as it's over 30C hot is there a speed limit of 80 (!) in order to prevent "blow ups"... (only on the concrete bits, not the tarmac of over 90% of the Autobahn).
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Re: Geneva to Amsterdam - via France or Germany?

I always find via Michelin to be the most informative planner, (Below is the link for simply Geneva to Amsterdam)

http://www.viamichelin.co.uk/web/Rou...routeConso=5.6

Above there are 3 recommended routes, with times and prices, the prices include the Sfr 40 Vignette which you probably already have.
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Re: Geneva to Amsterdam - via France or Germany?

We have done the Zurich - Utrecht route a few times, and we always choose DE over FR. We do the ZH-Basel-Karlsruhe-Mannheim-Koblenz-Nijmegen and then up towards Utrecht.

Even with the roadworks around Koblenz, we found that the road 61 is not too busy. However, last time we drove back, the road became a "patinoire" - absolutely awful with rain.

France has too many tolls, absolutely stinky toilets, and too many speed cameras!

Goede reis (Have a safe trip)
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