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GA validity: Bern -> Domodossola

I see there is a dotted line between Brig and iselle di trasquela, which according to the GA map means 1/2 price.

If you're travelling between Bern and Domodossola, do you have to pay a supplement for this stretch? And how do you pay it?

Has anyone done this before?
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Old 02.11.2015, 14:16
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Re: GA validity: Bern -> Domodossola

I'm even more confused now. It says: "The GA travelcard is valid for international travel as far as the border points (e.g. Iselle di Trasquera). For further information, please see any staffed point of sale."

what happens between Iselle di Trasquera and Domodossola?
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Old 02.11.2015, 14:21
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I'm even more confused now. It says: "The GA travelcard is valid for international travel as far as the border points (e.g. Iselle di Trasquera). For further information, please see any staffed point of sale."

what happens between Iselle di Trasquera and Domodossola?
You pay the standard Italian rail fare.
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Re: GA validity: Bern -> Domodossola

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I see there is a dotted line between Brig and iselle di trasquela, which according to the GA map means 1/2 price.
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On the SBB map I am looking at, it is a red dashed line and means that the train is going through a tunnel.
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Re: GA validity: Bern -> Domodossola

Its valid all the way

https://www.sbb.ch/content/sbb/en/de...r.download.pdf

Edit: have travelled this way recently with a Tageskarte Gemeinde, same validity as a GA
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Old 02.11.2015, 15:36
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On the SBB map I am looking at, it is a red dashed line and means that the train is going through a tunnel.
On the map i'm looking at the red dashed line means it is valid at half fare (not fully included) see key in the bottom left corner.

Unless there is a difference between dashed and dots.

Then again, I once travelled on the cog train to Jungfraujoch with GA and that is dotted. Did I just slip under the radar?
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Old 02.11.2015, 15:45
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On the map i'm looking at the red dashed line means it is valid at half fare (not fully included) see key in the bottom left corner.

Unless there is a difference between dashed and dots.
Dotted are 1/2 fare.

Dashed are tunnels.

Look at the Gotthard line.

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Dotted are 1/2 fare.

Dashed are tunnels.

Look at the Gotthard line.

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Thanks. So assuming the dashed means tunnel and valid, then that still leaves:

"The GA travelcard is valid for international travel as far as the border points (e.g. Iselle di Trasquera). For further information, please see any staffed point of sale."

If that is the case, I wonder why between Iselle di Trasquera and Domodossola is solid red? It doesn't make sense.
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Old 02.11.2015, 16:04
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Unless there is a difference between dashed and dots.
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Indeed there is. Not only that, there is a difference between small dashes and large dashes.
The Lötschberg tunnel (Kandersteg to Goppenstein), for example, merits only a small dash on account of the fact that it is an old and grimy tunnel, and the view out of the train window is particularly uninteresting for for the rail tourist.
However, the tunnel between Frutigen and Raron, which is the new and preferred route south, replacing the Lötschberg tunnel, is proudly marked by large dashes.
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Thanks. So assuming the dashed means tunnel and valid, then that still leaves:

"The GA travelcard is valid for international travel as far as the border points (e.g. Iselle di Trasquera). For further information, please see any staffed point of sale."

If that is the case, I wonder why between Iselle di Trasquera and Domodossola is solid red? It doesn't make sense.
It's a special case, as are the bus routes between Lugano and Val Bregaglia and Val Poschiavo through Italy, as well as a few other places in GR.

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Re: GA validity: Bern -> Domodossola

Have twice taken the train from Lausanne to Locarno via Domodossola with a GA and it was valid all the way. It's an excellent journey, make sure you get on the south-facing side of the the train through Centovalli in order to get the best views.

Also, please try to act your age and not giggle too much about the fact that for the Domodossola-Locarno bit you're riding on a FART train.
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Also, please try to act your age and not giggle too much about the fact that for the Domodossola-Locarno bit you're riding on a FART train.
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Someone was having a laugh, as it really should be FARL (Locarnesi rather than Ticinesi).

Oh, and the Locarno train station isn't actually in Locarno.

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It's a special case, as are the bus routes between Lugano and Val Bregaglia and Val Poschiavo through Italy, as well as a few other places in GR.
Exactly. One should always refer to the map as there are many routes out of TI and GR into Italy and Austria which are covered by the GA. (Landeck, Nauders, Mals/Malles, Livigno, Chiavenna, Luino, etc.)
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Re: GA validity: Bern -> Domodossola

i know lot of students who go through there, swiss abonaments are valid all the way.

FART was born as FRT to manage the centovallina railway and also integrated the val maggia railway (so outside the locarnese), the local public transport in locarnese was added later and was not the core business, so it was indeed a regional ticinese railway company.
When trams shut down along with the valmaggina they thought to add an A because in the 60s they were very proud of the new buses (a for autolinee), how times change...
They also manage 2 cablecar lines.
They should definitely change the name, i think it's time. Btw it also manages extra urban bus lines, of which one the 315 goes outside the locarnese to vallemaggia, but maybe autopostale will steal those in 2016 when the concession ends, then FARL would be consistent.
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They should definitely change the name, i think it's time. Btw it also manages extra urban bus lines, of which one the 315 goes outside the locarnese to vallemaggia, but maybe autopostale will steal those in 2016 when the concession ends, then FARL would be consistent.
I don't see why they should change their name just because it means something in another language. With such reasoning hundreds of names of products and companies should be changed! Most people don't even realise what it means anyway! When speaking Italian and the acronym F.A.R.T. (la FART), (Ferrovie Autolinee Regionali Ticinesi) is in the sentence, I don't give it a second thought!
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They should definitely change the name, i think it's time. Btw it also manages extra urban bus lines, of which one the 315 goes outside the locarnese to vallemaggia, but maybe autopostale will steal those in 2016 when the concession ends, then FARL would be consistent.
Why it only means something smutty in English which is not a national language here.
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Why it only means something smutty in English which is not a national language here.

Farting is not smutty ,it is a normal healthy function
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Farting is not smutty ,it is a normal healthy function
I agree with you, maybe not the politest way of expressing yourself, but in the context it was suggested that the railway changed it's name to suit certain sensibilities it certainly had a smutty undertone.
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On the map i'm looking at the red dashed line means it is valid at half fare (not fully included) see key in the bottom left corner.

Unless there is a difference between dashed and dots.

Then again, I once travelled on the cog train to Jungfraujoch with GA and that is dotted. Did I just slip under the radar?

It's 100% valid and it's totally worth it!
Still trying to figure out how you managed to do the Jungfrau only with the Swiss Pass...
Anyway great job !
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It's 100% valid and it's totally worth it!
Still trying to figure out how you managed to do the Jungfrau only with the Swiss Pass...
Anyway great job !
If you got to the very top, then yes you were under the radar, but a GA will take you to Keine Shnydegg or whatever it's called, the stop where you change trains to go to the very top
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