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French people carriers from Renault and Citroen are well kitted out and cheap but lose their value so quickly.

Same applies to Kia Carens though it does come with that 7 year warranty.

Everyone has a VW Touren. Sharan, Alhambra and Galaxy pretty much the same in terms of what you get for your money.

XC90 and Discovery Sport look cool.

Ford S-Max is a little smaller but shows by owning a people carrier you haven't quite given up on life completely.
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Old 22.10.2015, 17:04
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French people carriers from Renault and Citroen are well kitted out and cheap but lose their value so quickly.
So unless i-b-deborah is looking to buy a new car, she will be getting a bit of a bargain if she buys a Renault secondhand.
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Entirely depends on budget - the original Zafira used to be a budget good choice but they are getting old in the tooth now, the later ones didn't really take the game on at all.
Could keep you warm at night though:

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Re: Recommended cars for sale

Since these recommendations are all for boring 7 seaters, what would you recommend in the 4x4 category? Looking for a kayaking/skiing car so needs roofbars and the ability to go down a track without pulling the fuel pump hose out (that rules out my old 307 estate). Budget around 15000CHF, currently looking at things like the C-Crosser, outlander, qashqai etc).
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Could keep you warm at night though:



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Since these recommendations are all for boring 7 seaters, what would you recommend in the 4x4 category? Looking for a kayaking/skiing car so needs roofbars and the ability to go down a track without pulling the fuel pump hose out (that rules out my old 307 estate). Budget around 15000CHF, currently looking at things like the C-Crosser, outlander, qashqai etc).
Depends how manly you want to look

Roof bars etc on an SUV will make it tall and it can be tricky to load onto the roof - so you may want to consider that. "Practical" SUVs also have 3 way split seats meaning you can put skis/boards in it and still carry 4 people (inc driver - worth thinking about).

Disco 3s start at around 11-12k - with 15k getting you either an early V8 with a huge thirst OR a 2006 diesel - with a decent thirst.

But there is a leftfield choice which could work well - the Audi Allroad. The A4 is just coming into budget (assuming you like KMs above 200k) - but the A6 has plenty of choice.

Here are those under 15k - Autoscout search. The A6 can pump up its suspension for more rugged tracks and be lowered for easier loading of the roof.

Of the models:
2.7T is lusty but thirsty - and you'd better served by the V8
2.5TDI (180ps) is strong but prices are relatively high

The later 3.2/3.0T will have better fuel economy/performance ratio. From the list I'd take a look at this one
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So unless i-b-deborah is looking to buy a new car, she will be getting a bit of a bargain if she buys a Renault secondhand.
Yes and no. Reliability questions still remain though if it's a diesel then there should be no issues, at least with the motor. More often than not is that the interior of these cars tends to be of a lower standard and quality than say a VW, which means once it's had a few years of use by a family, they start to look a bit tired.
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Before leaving the 7-seater topic, why is it that nobody talks about the Mazda 5? I think it's an affordable, practical alternative to Sharans and others.
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Before leaving the 7-seater topic, why is it that nobody talks about the Mazda 5? I think it's an affordable, practical alternative to Sharans and others.
They are uninspiring "ronseal" cars - they do exactly what they say on the tin. However for 26,000chf it could be a decent new car for someone.
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I bought the Maxda and the volvo so I'm not looking for myself, but having said that, I would die before I buy a renault.
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I bought the Maxda and the volvo so I'm not looking for myself, but having said that, I would die before I buy a renault.
Fair enough but if it's because of reliability ratings and repair costs of cars today and not those of twenty or thirty years ago then no-one would buy BMW or Audi.

You ought to see the rave motoring reviews of this when compared with the Mercedes A45 AMG offered at at a much higher price:


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You ought to see the rave motoring reviews of this when compared with the Mercedes A45 AMG offered at at a much higher price:
Because motoring journalists, when testing a new sports car, could not give a toss about resale prices, reliability and repair costs.

Do you know how much the spares for any Renault sport are? Mercedes is actually and honestly cheaper and that's something you don't hear often!

(And the A45 AMG is the most chav car the company has ever produced. Don't want to be seen dead in one.)
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The A45 AMG is the most chav car the company has ever produced. Don't want to be seen dead in one.
Do you lot take your motoring so seriously?
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Do you lot take your motoring so seriously?
Well, simply put: I am working for a company that tries to be professional, reliable and trustworthy. Are these the three things that come to your mind if you have an appointment and your potential business partner shows up in this?

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(And the A45 AMG is the most chav car the company has ever produced. Don't want to be seen dead in one.)
If you compare the A45 AMG to its lesser cousins it is less chav than this Mercedes to its lesser cousins

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Well, simply put: I am working for a company that tries to be professional, reliable and trustworthy. Are these the three things that come to your mind if you have an appointment and your potential business partner shows up in this?

I'm guessing the pink is optional. I'm sure you could get the go-faster stripes from AMG in trustworthy gold.
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If you compare the A45 AMG to its lesser cousins it is less chav than this Mercedes to its lesser cousins

But there is a difference: that thing was not designed to look chav, it was designed for racing (with limited success as BMW was doing the same just a wee bit better at the time...). A touring car actually has a spoiler cause it needs it. There is no excuse for the A series...

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I'm guessing the pink is optional. I'm sure you could get the go-faster stripes from AMG in trustworthy gold.
Why stop at the stripes?

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Not only is the pink optional, but so are the front splitter, rear wing, tinted windows and badges.

Without all of those things it looks just like any other A-class. It's also exactly how we specced ours. It's a fantastic car overall and is discreet enough for my decidedly non-chav girlfriend to use as a commuter car.

Admittedly it was 5 years ago, but I test drove a Megane 250. It felt more like an appliance than a hot hatch. I'm not anti-Renault either - used to own a Clio 172 Cup.
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Why stop at the stripes?
Not every car maker gets it right every time.
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