Remember the golden rule, never speak to the police. If nobody is injured just fill in a form & go.

Could age be a factor in this? I don't want to ask the OP her/his age, as that could be somewhat private and rude, no?

I worry about my aging father in law. He drives like a maniac. I was told they may take his license away from him because of his age. Apparently, they do that here.

I was done for speeding a few months ago and before the fine arrived, I had a letter saying that a licence suspension was a possibility. In the event, it didn't happen. It's possible that the OP's letter was a similar warning? Doesn't mean he won't get a ban, of course, but the letter may just be a stock notification that this is an option for the authorities.

If the OP's version is a fair summary of the events, a ban would seem excessive -- especially as he had no prior record. When I got my fine, I was warned that a ban was likely if I commit another offence in the next 2 years. (I don't believe this includes minor speeding violations -- blinkin' hope not, anyway...)

I finally got the letter from the judge. I should have received it days ago, but it was sent with B (economy) while the one from the SAN was sent the normal way.

The judge decided for 200 fine + 200 admin fees.

It seems that I am to blame for not paying enough attention and not giving the priority while joining the main road.

Only that the judge didn't seem to pay too much attention either when he said that I ignored the "give way" sign. I checked and there's no sign to be found on that street. There are no marks on the road either and certainly I couldn't just ignore that I must give priority since I've waited a couple of minutes until somebody was kind enough to let me join the traffic.

I am very tempted to write a letter to SAN to explain that some details in the judge's letter are not accurate. I only hope it won't make things worse.

Otherwise, it's probably very likely to have my driving license suspended.

Go for it!

Did you bother to read the Thread I'd linked to in post #20?

It seems you did almost exactly the same as the EF member involved; failing to give way on entering a main road (except in their case it was from a motorway slip road).
The fine was the same, they were at at least partially fault and swiss law can punish both parties involved in incidents, even if one is considered more 'guilty' than the other.
Despite the lack of road sign and markings they're still technically there, you knew you were entering a main road from a secondary one should have paid more attention; waiting a few minutes before being waved in by another motorist does not absolve you of the need for care and attention.

It's quite likely the scooterist has received a similar fine, it's really best just to accept it and think yourself lucky you haven't lost your licence.

You got off lightly then. Consider yourself lucky is not into 4 figures.
What on earth would you hoped to achieve by that? The only possible outcome would be additional fees for the admin involved if they looked into it.
No, I think you've got away with it. Once it's been before the judge in your canton that's an end to it. It's there that any suspension would be issued.

SAN decision is always based on judges decision.


Which means you are in for a warning (plus some more admin fees for the warning). Unless you had a warning or license suspension in the last two years.


Based on your description the scooter driver came from the right, correct? Priority from the right my dear. But there may be some other signs you may have missed. Crossed a side walk? No priority for you.

SAN will give not a blink to your letter. Most likely no charge for that. They will base there ruling on the judges decision. Unhappy with the judges decision? You have to challenge that. Oh, charge for that for sure.

Based on the fine it is very likely that you get a warning. Unless you had in the past two years... see above.

I have always had something against 'gentlemen drivers'. In my long life on the roads I've seen some terrible near hits thanks to someone making a decision for another driver. Therefore my tip - ignore gentlemen drivers. Stick to the rules of the road.

'You can't fight city hall'

Its bad luck I guess. Pay it and forget about it

I once was fined for speeding in the city of Zurich very early in the morning. After correction 51 km so I had to pay chf40. Stupid enough I forgot to pay. The reminder came in for chf90 and with that fine a letter said that I risked a jail sentence of up to 3 months. Of course I paid up but the thread of jail was a bit disproportional I would say for speeding 1 km.

Sounds like bad luck.
Never, ever trust other drivers signalling to you that the road ahead is clear or whatever.
And consider getting legal insurance for car-related incidents (TCS offers such coverage, for example).