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Classic Ducatis...

... really just suck. Not sure why, but I somehow feel like raising this topic today.
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Old 18.11.2015, 10:41
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Re: Classic Ducatis...

So do Harleys, full stop.

(That ought to get things going)
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Old 18.11.2015, 10:48
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Re: Classic Ducatis...

And BMW riders.

They never do the salute!
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Old 18.11.2015, 11:14
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So do Harleys, full stop.

(That ought to get things going)


Classic vehicle owners mostly fall into one of two camps: They are either unable to see the flaws in their vehicle, or they have a long list of improvements to the design. It doesn't even seem to matter if they do their own work or not.


I work mostly on English cars. The Germans often feel that the first thing to improve is to install a Bosch fuel pump, as they are convinced that SU is crap. The problem isn't SU or Bosch, the problem is expecting a fuel pump to last more than 40 years!
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Old 18.11.2015, 11:18
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... really just suck. Not sure why, but I somehow feel like raising this topic today.
I always thought the idea of desmodromic valves rather elegant. Leaving the closing to mere springs seems like cheating.

However, I understand they're a real bastard to adjust.
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Old 18.11.2015, 11:26
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The problem isn't SU or Bosch, the problem is expecting a fuel pump to last more than 40 years!
Or maybe the problem is putting the bloody thing exposed by a wheel arch so it is constantly showered in water and road grime. In my youth, I seemed to spend far too many journeys on wet winter nights in Minis and 1100/1300s repeatedly having to get out, lie in the gutter and belt it with a hammer.
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Old 18.11.2015, 11:29
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lie in the gutter and belt it with a hammer.

Bit like Tom after he fallen off (again) you mean ?
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Old 18.11.2015, 11:46
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Or maybe the problem is putting the bloody thing exposed by a wheel arch so it is constantly showered in water and road grime. In my youth, I seemed to spend far too many journeys on wet winter nights in Minis and 1100/1300s repeatedly having to get out, lie in the gutter and belt it with a hammer.


Back in the day it may have been annoying, but think of how it built character! Once the cars become classics these quirks add to the charm. I've spent my share of time swapping pumps in the dark because on a twin tank Jag the pump invariably fails on the tank which is full. Had it down to a science, but now I can afford a new pump.
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Old 18.11.2015, 11:51
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Re: Classic Ducatis...

Do Bosch pumps whine???

TBH mine makes more noise the harder it has to work
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Old 18.11.2015, 12:03
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Do Bosch pumps whine???

TBH mine makes more noise the harder it has to work

Some do, as do the Facets. Most make some noise, the SUs were usually mounted with some rubber isolation, so you don't really notice it when the car is actually running. If you mount an SU, Bosch, or Facet straight to the body then you will hear it even at idle.
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Old 18.11.2015, 12:07
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If you mount an SU, Bosch, or Facet straight to the body then you will hear it even at idle.
Bingo!!!
Considering the chassis design and mounting of the pump it explains the noise. The racecar also has the same issue before firing - when you hear the pumps (one in tank and one for the swirlpot)
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Most make some noise, the SUs were usually mounted with some rubber isolation, so you don't really notice it when the car is actually running.
And a good job you could hear them too. Because the return valve never worked, you had to wait after you'd turned on the ignition to hear the SU pump stop clicking before you tried starting the engine. Otherwise you could flatten the battery on the starter before enough fuel had been pumped up.

I really did have some rubbish cars.
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Re: Classic Ducatis...

Why mods don't close threads like this?
it has 0 relevance and just fill forum with junk.

Maybe EF should create a chat channel so people can chat instead of creating threads like this?
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Old 18.11.2015, 15:52
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Why mods don't close threads like this?
it has 0 relevance and just fill forum with junk.

Maybe EF should create a chat channel so people can chat instead of creating threads like this?
Maybe if the mods banned you, that would lead to less junk in this forum
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Why mods don't close threads like this?
it has 0 relevance and just fill forum with junk.
Coming from a guy with a "Thanks/Groan-ratio" on almost 1:1
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Coming from a guy with a "Thanks/Groan-ratio" on almost 1:1
Must resist taking your cherry
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Re: Classic Ducatis...

Until recently I had a 1997 Cagiva E750 Elefant. Lovely bike, real pain finding parts. The engine is the same as a Ducati Monster from the same period so not too many problems there, but pretty much everything else was a real issue.... It died (flywheel split, damaged crankshaft) despite being taken care of and isn't worth repairing in terms of money and time Miss the bike, don't miss the associated hassles and numerous electrical gremlins.
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... really just suck. Not sure why, but I somehow feel like raising this topic today.
You just love being my new biker bitch, don't you!

I.e. I'm no longer banned, boy!

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So do Harleys, full stop.

(That ought to get things going)
You are both wrong.

Because I said so.
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You just love being my new biker bitch, don't you!

I.e. I'm no longer banned, boy!

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Thank god, the voice of reason is back ..... my thanks and groan totals have missed you.
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