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Re: BMW brake pads change

Drive the car to a German independent garage. You'll get a fair price, good workmanship and 19% German tax back, with 8% Swiss tax to pay. The job of changing just the pads is very simple for a low mileage car, you could do it yourself.
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Re: BMW brake pads change

FYI, BMW in Germany has fixed prices for some services for older cars, like changing the brake pads (unfortunately the OP's E90 is too new):

more info here (in German):
http://www.bmw.de/de/topics/service-...ueservice.html
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Old 03.02.2016, 07:33
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Drive the car to a German independent garage. You'll get a fair price, good workmanship and 19% German tax back, with 8% Swiss tax to pay. The job of changing just the pads is very simple for a low mileage car, you could do it yourself.
Only on the parts - not on the labour.
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Re: BMW brake pads change

Write an email to ATU for the ones near you I was quoted there around 400 for the two set but I ended up doing with these guys here axpert.ch

Just as a note I got for the same job two different prices for ATU I think I contact one in Spreitenbach and one in Winterthur interesting huh

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Re: BMW brake pads change

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All the prices on .de and .ch include Mwst, but on the .ch site they also link to "import regulations" so I don't know if that means you've paid German *and* Swiss Vat or if they've taken the VAT off at source. I hate these ".ch" sites that make it appear that they're selling from Switzerland.
I ordered over 200 CHF worth of service parts for 3 cars about 2 weeks ago. 20lt of oil, 3 oil filters, 2 cabin filters, 1 set of wipers, 3lt of diff oil.

I called the helpine on autoteile-meile.ch and they assured me that the price indicated is with VAT included and that I wouldn't have to pay for import.

Turns out they send each freaking item on each one box, they must have a really good contract with DPD. So no individual package was costed over 65CHF. Also I have never seen so much cardboard being wasted in my entire life.

However I didn't see the normal green (?) sticker on any of the packages that say that it is exempt of import tax, so my best guess would be that the prices advertised are all-in, including the importation.

In any case, everything was dirt cheap, so I'm a happy customer and I will return. Prices were even cheaper than the equivalent .de ones, I guess from the VAT differences.

The only real complaint is too much packaging (that I have to get rid off) and too many emails as each item sent was its own invoice, and its own credit card charge.




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I don't think those are completely the BMW way and he forgets to test them for sticking pistons after fitment. Also I don't think he shows pushing the pistons back other than by hand, which is usually impossible. The pads he was taking off looked brand new.
It's brake pads, what could possibly be the "BMW" way. You take them off you put others in. That's it. Pistons are not going to be sticking after 30k Kms, unless the car was parked in the test rigs the manufacturers are using spraying salt at 60 deg C to simulate decades of corrosion in mere days.


People that pay 1700 CHF at 30k Km for brake pads are lunatics, plain and simple. And garages that order discs to be changed at 30k should have their licences revoked. The way customers are being treated in fear of the "MFK" is absolutely horrific.
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It's brake pads, what could possibly be the "BMW" way. You take them off you put others in. That's it.

I don't think slarring grease onto the caliper pins is in the TIS, but each to their own and like you say it's pretty much a no brainer.

I'm still also sticking with the suspicion that the pads and discs are fine.
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Re: BMW brake pads change

Front pads and discs for e.g. a 325i E90, from BMW Germany, run at about 390 euros. If you multiply by 1.5 for swiss prices that's getting on for 600 CHF .Multiply by 2 for the rears and that leaves more than 500 CHF labour, for a one hour job?

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Re: BMW brake pads change

So finally where did you go to change them.. mine are now due and shows red light on the dash board... dealer quoted 900 chf to change the front disc and pads...

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Re: BMW brake pads change

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So finally where did you go to change them.. mine are now due and shows red light on the dash board... delar quoted 900 chf to change the front disc and pads...
you can also buy them online via pkwteile.ch or autoteile-meile.ch (or many others) and find a garage to change them.
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Re: BMW brake pads change

I can't recommend enough to buy genuine pads over standard aftermarket ones. I usually use Leebmann24 for my genuine BMW stuff.
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I can't recommend enough to buy genuine pads over standard aftermarket ones. I usually use Leebmann24 for my genuine BMW stuff.


ATE are often the original manufacture so why pay 3 times as much for the same item?
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Re: BMW brake pads change

Also you can probably find aftermarket "non-OEM" that are perfectly fine for daily driving duties and, especially when it comes to BMW, not have to clean the wheels every 2 freaking days.

BMW uses Pagid, Jurid, ATE for pads.
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Old 06.08.2016, 23:16
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Re: BMW brake pads change

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FYI, BMW in Germany has fixed prices for some services for older cars, like changing the brake pads (unfortunately the OP's E90 is too new):

more info here (in German):
http://www.bmw.de/de/topics/service-...ueservice.html
I've got a 2011 E91 and that link seems to say that it's covered for brake fluid change at least.
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ATE are often the original manufacture so why pay 3 times as much for the same item?
In my experience they're not the same. I buy aftermarket discs but rarely aftermarket pads.
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Only on the parts - not on the labour.
I've only just seen this, but better late than never. It's not correct. MWSt is not refundable on car parts exported from Germany "as is", but when installed on/into a car by a garage, the MWSt on the parts AND on the labour is refundable in full. I've just done exactly this for my now-sold Mercedes.
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I've only just seen this, but better late than never. It's not correct. MWSt is not refundable on car parts exported from Germany "as is", but when installed on/into a car by a garage, the MWSt on the parts AND on the labour is refundable in full. I've just done exactly this for my now-sold Mercedes.
would you mind providing a link (or via PM) to the garage you used? I will at some point need to get some work done. Good to know of a recommended garage in DE. thanks
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Old 07.08.2016, 10:07
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would you mind providing a link (or via PM) to the garage you used? I will at some point need to get some work done. Good to know of a recommended garage in DE. thanks
I'm not necessarily recommending the garage, as they replaced the power steering pump (which I had to pay for, of course) which I don't believe was defective. But they did refund all the MWSt. PM on its way to you.
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Re: BMW brake pads change

Jacek's bit pissed off

Started new job with daily commute 2 x 80km so I clock up to 800km per week to put it mildly.

Well, just have done regular service oil change, air filter and what's not in Waldshut for €250 in non-BMW stealer garage because I thought it would be cheaper and all done at once. I know what you may think at this point ...

As they couldn't finish rear wheels brake fluid and spark plugs replacement, they quoted me another €400 (VAT included) to make another appointment.

Given the complexity of the whole job, I decided to rather take a car to BMW stealer because they quoted me almost exact same price even slightly lower than the latter (non-stealer garage). So far so good. Sat there yesterday for good 2.5h entertained by coffee and sweets in Gottstein garage while waiting for good news. Not to mention crowds of shopping makers in bumper to bumper traffic near Zoll. Anyway, the agent after discussion with mechanics brings me another quote for another appointment worth €650 because brake pads are apparently 3mm thin and good to go for another 2000km not to compromise the safety. Apparently the front ones are ok. Wow, at this point I'm a bit puzzled because the wear sensor shows in front 39,000km and rear 37,000km more to go on vehicle check status. Don't trust those sensors cos only located per wheel can show uneven wear, I was told. In other words bullshit!

Now, while I can believe I need new brake pads after 122,000km of rather soft driving. Never slam on the brakes!

Shit! I could buy my own discs, rotors and brake pads plus sensors for half a price but don't have time tools and patience anymore. So I guess I have to go with the stealer option for that price, mind you it's only rear brake pads. When I need to do the fronts it's gonna be exact same price over again I guess.

Questions to experts. Would you still drive on 3mm pads next week?
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Re: BMW brake pads change

I would change, no rush but defo within the next month or so.
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I would change, no rush but defo within the next month or so.
Well, probably I will do it as early as the next week as my 17 year old son is coming to visit in two weeks and we need to drive to Films-Laax-Farela for snowboarding/skiing adventure. Don't wanna endanger young lad.

Just hate the idea of going every Saturday to spend another day in the garage worrying about the car instead using my time profusely on some better activities like spending time with my family.
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