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Re: driving to UK

Fortunately, it isn't everything we own, just the stock from our business

Thanks, guys, for the pretty good idea of costs and time!
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Re: driving to UK

I have done the CH to UK trip about 6 times now. I have just about mastered it. I am aiming for cost saving so do it in a single day and avoid some of the tolls. Of course if you are travelling with a family you may do things differently. Here is my advice.

Basel, Mulhouse, Strasbourg, Metz, Namur, Charleroi, Lille, Calais/Dunkirk/Boulogne (depending on port)

My record of Zurich to Bedfordshire is about 13.5 hours!

This route although does have some toll roads avoids the main tolls via Rheim. From my experience it does not add time onto the journey.

Absolutely fill up in Luxembourg! Petrol is even cheaper there than in CH. There are 2 petrol stations driving through Luxembourg on the motorway. It is also a good half way stopping point.

As for getting across the channel.... I have used the tunnel, Speedferries and Sea France. When I used the tunnel I had free vouchers so it made sense. Last time I used Speedferries and the crossing to the UK was great. However, on the return this year on 1/1/07 they cancelled! This is because their boat was too small to handle the sea conditions so they cancelled. I had to rush to the bookings office and try to get on the next ferry. Sea France were great too but £70 for single crossing was a little steep.
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Driving to Switzerland from the UK?

Hi,

I need some advice on driving to Switzerland from the UK, on two issues.

Firstly, the drive itself. Have bought some maps and done some simple route planning (I don't trust sat nav!) and the route I've devised is

Exeter - Dover - Calais - Reims - Metz - Strasbourg - Basel - Emmen - Zug

Would welcome the input of experience whether thats a sensible route, also having entered it into some online route planners, they tell me that I can do it all in the first day by the simple expedient of driving for 16 straight hours and covering the 850 miles in one trip (!)

I'd rather take a couple of breaks and not crash and die so I'm planning stopovers in Calais and Metz - again any advice on better places to break the journey are welcome (will also be taking regular rest stops at services en route but those will be overnight stays)

Secondly, the items I'll be taking. The plan is to take "essential" items for myself, a couple of work colleagues, and some office equipment along in the car journey (the majority of gear will come over with a specialist removals agency a few days later, this will be stuff like laptops, bedding, personal hygiene stuff, etc). While I don't want to come across as panicking needlessly, I also don't want to just "assume" that I can breeze through customs with all these items laden in the car, and having never driven across a passport controlled border before I'd like to check what the procedure is here, and if there are any goods that I can't take / would have to pay charges for taking.

Any and all advice would be really welcome on this one, oh and I'll see those of you who live in Zug sometime around the evening of May 4th all being well!

Cheers in advance,

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Re: Driving to Switzerland from the UK?

The hardest part of your journey will be in the UK - are there no crossings into Brittany you can take to shorten the drive? www.aferry.to might help.

From Calais, Zug is 8 hours' drive. Factor in stops for fuel and the like and it's a 10 hour chunk.

For what you're bringing (I assume you're in a car), it should be no problem. See more here: http://www.englishforum.ch/permits-v...nal+belongings
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Re: Driving to Switzerland from the UK?

Cheers for moving the post and your advice, I could get a ferry from Plymouth to Brittany, but tbh I don't mind the drive in the UK - I'm used to going back "up north" to Leeds which is a 5 hour drive so it shouldn't be a huge problem.

The online route planner gets Calais to Zug as being a shade over 850km, so yeah that's 8 hours, but surely 500 miles in one drive is pushing it in terms of concentration levels...? Or am I just being needlessly paranoid hehe.

Thanks for the advice on the items, yes I'll be in a car, that links a big help

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Re: Driving to Switzerland from the UK?

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The online route planner gets Calais to Zug as being a shade over 850km, so yeah that's 8 hours, but surely 500 miles in one drive is pushing it in terms of concentration levels...? Or am I just being needlessly paranoid hehe.
I love long drives through Europe... I've done 1000 km several times in one stretch, and always am kind of dissappointed when it's over. I remember once I was driving back from Berlin... The final stretch, from Karlsruhe to Basel was in the middle of the night... Averaged 167 km/h, with the cruise control set at 200 , concentration and reflexes no problem at all! I guess it all comes down to what you decide your 'threshold' is!
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Old 12.04.2007, 14:31
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Re: Driving to Switzerland from the UK?

you'll find the 550 miles from Calais to be much easier than the drive in the UK. Driving there is so congested everywhere.

Plus the route up from Exeter on the A404 (IIRC) until around Bath/Bristol is riddled with roundabouts (and speed cameras now).

The numb drive is autoroute (péage) Calais - towards Paris - Metz/Nancy - Strasbourg - Basle and then on into sunny Switzerland.

Post-border on the German side coming into Basel - 80kph. DO NOT SPEED as that stretch has a few camera; most noteable are the clutch of 4 together - you feel like a model

The first set of cameras is literally 200m or so from where you join the (rated as) autobahn (road).

You might want to visit an AA shop and get the Swiss motorway sticker.
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Old 12.04.2007, 14:40
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Re: Driving to/from UK: Routes, advice, discussion

The ferry routes from Plymouth and Poole are both pricey, but the Southamption > Le Havre route is (or used to cost) the same as Dover Calais. You can get a cabin or aircraft chair for the night (extra cost) on the 11:00pm sailing and be off fresh as a daisy at 7:00am at Le Havre.

Oddly the distance from Calais to Switzerland and La Havre is almost the same. But due to Paris is not quite as fast. 9 hours instead of 8 hours.

If you opt for Dover Calais - don't forget www.speedferries.com - the cheapest way over the Channel...
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Re: Driving to/from UK: Routes, advice, discussion

Yeah the part I'd not mentioned is that I'll be driving a manual after having driven an auto for the past 2 years or so...I think the UK drive is wise to get used to gears and clutches again without having to stress about what side of the road I'm on as well

I'm thinking I'll have a decent break on the ferry, cheers for the speedferries tip, so I'll probably put in another few hours drive in France and take a break in Rheims, then do the run to Zug in one the next day.

Thanks for all the advice!

Terry

edit - have done some more map studying and I think Lob's suggestion of the ferry to Brittany might be the best idea. Ferry prices from Plymouth to Saint Pol De Leon are cheaper than Dover - Calais, and it's then 1100km from there to Zug (goes roughly via Rennes - Le Mans - Paris - Dijon - Mulhouse - Basel - Zug) - although I suspect I might be quicker cutting the corner off and going (Le Mans - Orleans - Dijon) and skipping the Parisian visit!

Also gives a more sensible "halfway point" stop over at Orleans / Paris depending which route I take, and I can get the whole trip done in 2 days not the 3 I was considering.

Good idea Lob, I'd dismissed it without really giving it a thought so thanks for re-planting the seed in my mind
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Driving from Zurich/Basel to the UK - Your route

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What is the route that people take from Zurich/Basel to the UK
I've got 2 routes and I'm not sure which is the best, both take about 8 hours to Calais.

Route A (see diagram)

Basel then Epinal - Nancy - Chalons - Rheims - Calais

Its a slow route but pretty and it misses out most of the tolls, it also shaves a good fair few kilometres off the journey. Problems are getting stuck behind a lorry, tractor, French Granny etc. which can make the journey go on and on and on and on. However you can always stop in a cafe and eat chocolate.

RouteB is all motorway
Basel - Strasbourg - Metz - Rheims - Calais

Its dull, and really long and costs about 50 Euro's in toll charges, but its quick and you can really floor it, also you can over-take all the Euro Monkeys who foolishly obey the speed limits.

Any other routes?
Same as you.

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Car, route A.
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Re: Driving from Zurich/Basel to the UK - Your route

Motorway route.
Quite stress free.

You can go via Luxembourg/Belgium to save around EUR 30 tolls, but I found it too busy, and the roads did my back in...
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Re: Driving from Zurich/Basel to the UK - Your route

I have done the drive a couple of times. If I remember right, the shorter route means driving over mountains where you cannot drive as fast and can take a long time, much longer than the motorway.

Personally if you want the quickest by at least an hour take the motorway.
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Re: Driving from Zurich/Basel to the UK - Your route

Route B is for me the best route , Route A seams to take too long?

However - What do you do when you get to Calais - Tunnel V Ferry. SeaFrance were doing some pretty good deals.
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However - What do you do when you get to Calais - Tunnel V Ferry. SeaFrance were doing some pretty good deals.
Tunnel - it's a dream, no waiting .

The only bummer is no seats for us bikers. I had a kip on the floor when I crossed last time and got told I was a fire hazzard .
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Re: Driving from Zurich/Basel to the UK - Your route

I like to take the mountain route if I have the time, because its a bit more fun - less repetitive...but yeah it can be massively slower.
If they thoughtless French cleared the road out just for me, and removed all the speed limits I reckon I could cut a good hour of the journey time though.

I take the chunnel everytime..only takes 35mins to cross and if you get there earlier or later you can still get on a train for no extra charge.
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Re: Driving from Zurich/Basel to the UK - Your route

The route via Luxembourg is not bad except the fact that Belgians drive badly.

The routes you'll find are about 800-850km whichever way you go.

With péage, the French are often too tight to use it.

You can "do" Calais in around 6 hours. Or you could until the Frogs put in all the speed camera.

Do note that in 100 zones there are many cameras installed and mappy.com will give you a route highlighting camera installations.
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The route via Luxembourg is not bad except the fact that Belgians drive badly.
The northern France route is far quieter and the roads are nicer.

Lux/Belgium route rattled my poor Opel to bits, perhaps it's Ok in your Luxo-barge-SUV-thingy

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Re: Driving to/from UK: Routes, advice, discussion

I drove the Luxembourg - Brussels / Namur route 2 years ago and it was terrible.
Road works blocked 1 lane for the entire 150km odd journey.

Will have a look at it next time though.

1 think I would point out, is if you have a UK number plate like me, you don't seem (fingers crossed) to get speeding tickets in Switzerland, been flashed twice and not had any come back from them.

EDIT: can a mod add some more tags, didn't find this thread because I searched under Britain / England and not the UK.

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The northern France route is far quieter and the roads are nicer.

Rattled my poor Opel to bits, perhaps it's Ok in your Luxo-barge-SUV-thingy
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