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Old 03.01.2008, 10:53
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Driving time - Manchester to Geneva!

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I am moving to just outside Geneva in the next week or two and plan to drive down in a Ford Transit packed full of my stuff.

Has anyone done a similar journey so I have an idea of how long it takes- I ve look at the Rac driving times but not sure how accurate they would be...

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Hi

I am moving to just outside Geneva in the next week or two and plan to drive down in a Ford Transit packed full of my stuff.

Has anyone done a similar journey so I have an idea of how long it takes- I ve look at the Rac driving times but not sure how accurate they would be...

Cheers
I would consider driving to Hull and taking the overnight ferry if going from Manchester. This avoids using UK roads as much as possible as they could be the worst you use and it will also factor-in that you need to stop and rest.

From Rotterdam in a Tranny, you're looking at 10 hours or so.

www.aferry.to is a great site for cheapo crossing tickets.

Someone will suggest something else if they feel strongly

Do you need to take the van back?
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Old 03.01.2008, 11:32
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I would consider driving to Hull and taking the overnight ferry if going from Manchester. This avoids using UK roads as much as possible as they could be the worst you use and it will also factor-in that you need to stop and rest.

From Rotterdam in a Tranny, you're looking at 10 hours or so.

www.aferry.to is a great site for cheapo crossing tickets.

Someone will suggest something else if they feel strongly

Do you need to take the van back?
I don't feel strongly. I'm just against the cost, hassle and time of the ferry.
Unless you plan to sail into Rosyth to make a Scotland trip easier, in which case it could make sense.

With good timings you should be able to navigate the novelty shaped car park that is the M25 to ease the Uk road pain.
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Old 03.01.2008, 11:36
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Re: Driving time - Manchester to Geneva!

Manc -> Hull = 2 hours down the M62
Manc -> London -> Dover or the Chunnel = 6-8 hours

I do exactly this (Hull-Rotterdam) when I visit my folks - who also live 2 hours from Hull

Driving in England is not really a pleasure.
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Re: Driving to/from UK: Routes, advice, discussion

Sorry, I edited the post to remove the Hull to Manc bit.
I didn't know the M62 went most of the way to Hull.
How long is the ferry?
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Sorry, I edited the post to remove the Hull to Manc bit.
I didn't know the M62 went most of the way to Hull.
How long is the ferry?
the Hull-Rotterdam service is overnight. With a van and that distance, I'd factor in an overnight somewhere anyway - and on the ferry is better than in some dodgy Formul-1 €35-a-night place, trust me
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Re: Driving to/from UK: Routes, advice, discussion

thanks for all help - im actually orignally starting in the Isle of man so have a 4 hour boat journey and 1 hour drive to manchester just to begin.

Im going to look into Hull-Rotterdam but ferrys are not my favourite mode fo transport!!!!!!

i dont intend bringing the van back so a nice second hand RHD transit will be for sale on here soon!

(Just checked and is is correct that Hull- Rotterdam ferry is about 10 hours???)
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Old 03.01.2008, 12:14
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Re: Driving to/from UK: Routes, advice, discussion

I've been on rough sees on that route and believe me, you don't notice it.
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Old 23.01.2008, 17:04
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Re: Driving to/from UK: Routes, advice, discussion

I'm just about to book my Eurotunnel tickets for the end of Feb. My plan is to take a midnight crossing from Folkstone and then drive overnight through France (Calais>Reims>Metz>Strasbourg>Basel). Does this sound like a reasonable plan? My car will be pretty packed with personal belongings so Ideally I would like to avoid very busy border crossings. Is the one at St Loius pretty quiet or should I try and cross elsewhere?

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Re: Driving to/from UK: Routes, advice, discussion

RE: Tunnel vs. Ferry.

The chances of the ferry being canceled or delayed are pretty slim these days TBH, I actually like the fact that you can break up the journey on the Ferry, get something to eat etc, it actually works out to be a good use of time. It is way, way cheaper too.

The Seacat is more likely to be delayed (still rare), as mentioned before Speed ferries are dirt cheap and take a similar time to the tunnel when you take into account waiting time etc. If you just want to get on it's better to arrive in Calais though.
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Old 23.01.2008, 19:08
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Re: Driving to/from UK: Routes, advice, discussion

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I'm just about to book my Eurotunnel tickets for the end of Feb. My plan is to take a midnight crossing from Folkstone and then drive overnight through France (Calais>Reims>Metz>Strasbourg>Basel). Does this sound like a reasonable plan? My car will be pretty packed with personal belongings so Ideally I would like to avoid very busy border crossings. Is the one at St Loius pretty quiet or should I try and cross elsewhere?

TIA
Best route - you can also guarantee that from Calais to Basel it will take you 7 hrs using this route, no matter what time of day, traffic etc Over the last few years the French have introduced speed cameras and they are dotted around.

Roughly speaking Calais Reims - 2 and a bit hours
Reims to MEtz - less than 2hrs
Metz - Strasbourg - 2 hours
Strasbourg - Basel - 1 hr.

Service stations are good, there a few new ones and the food is good.

Yes you have to pay the tolls, but the roads are empty and driving is stress free, as opposed to France, Belgium and Germany.

Also French Basel Border is more relaxed than Germany Basel border.
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Best route - you can also guarantee that from Calais to Basel it will take you 7 hrs using this route, no matter what time of day, traffic etc Over the last few years the French have introduced speed cameras and they are dotted around.

Roughly speaking Calais Reims - 2 and a bit hours
Reims to MEtz - less than 2hrs
Metz - Strasbourg - 2 hours
Strasbourg - Basel - 1 hr.
I did this route over Christmas - Very easy. took us 7 1/2 hours: with a bit of fog/3 breaks/under the speed limit. It is also not a bad "fun" drive in parts which helps.

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Re: Driving to/from UK: Routes, advice, discussion

We've hacked down from London and stayed in Strasbourg before. Although it's only a few hours away we like the city, it's a nice place to stay

I fully recommend the Regent Petite France Hotel, it's not so expensive during holiday times and is a truly stunning hotel http://www.benotel.com/france/strasb...ance/index.htm
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Re: Driving to/from UK: Routes, advice, discussion

I did the route through France and stopped in Reims, staying at great hotel called "Best Western De La Paix Hotel Reims". It has been recently refurbished and has some great rooms, secure attended underground parking, and an even greater champagne bar....

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A bit of a grind this trip. I assume you are crossing with DFDS? The ferry is a bit odd too - they run their dining facilities like a boarding school canteen and the food is quite pricey, but cheaper if you buy a meal ticket before boarding. If you have ever caught the western France ferries (Brittany) and are used to them you will be in for a culture shock with DFDS. They always have a live band and it gets pretty raucous with North Englanders determined to have a memorable hangover in the morning.
We are invited to a wedding in Hawes/Yorkshire this May and are planning to drive over. The easiest way I found was the Amsterdam <-> Newcastle Ferry. From Newcastle it's only a 2 hour drive and we were planning an overnight stop anyway because of the baby.

I couldn't find an alternative to DFDS. If possible we would obviously like to avoid live bands and pissheads so is there any other ferry other than DFDS for that route?
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Re: Driving to/from UK: Routes, advice, discussion

funny, my wife takes the route via Metz, she does it normally i 6 hours...
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We are invited to a wedding in Hawes/Yorkshire this May and are planning to drive over. The easiest way I found was the Amsterdam <-> Newcastle Ferry. From Newcastle it's only a 2 hour drive and we were planning an overnight stop anyway because of the baby.

I couldn't find an alternative to DFDS. If possible we would obviously like to avoid live bands and pissheads so is there any other ferry other than DFDS for that route?

Did some more research. Will probably take P&O from Zeebrügge or Rotterdam to Hull. Driving from Hull to Hawes is only marginally longer than from Newcastle. Anyone here with experience?
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Did some more research. Will probably take P&O from Zeebrügge or Rotterdam to Hull. Driving from Hull to Hawes is only marginally longer than from Newcastle. Anyone here with experience?
It's been a long time since I did it, but the Rotterdam boats had casinos, loud bands and pissheads. The Zeebrugge boats didn't - I used to pick the small bar where the truck drivers went, and a good sociable natter was par for the course.
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Re: Driving to/from UK: Routes, advice, discussion

i came over on the newcastle boat in sept. was so many loud poeple....
i would not use it with the kids!

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Re: Driving to/from UK: Routes, advice, discussion

Thanks for the input...booked P&O from Zeebrügge to Hull now.
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