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Old 07.02.2008, 16:46
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Re: Driving to/from UK: Routes, advice, discussion

great thread! im considering doing this drive somewhen in the near future. brilliant suggestions! thanks a lot.
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Old 07.02.2008, 16:53
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Re: Driving to/from UK: Routes, advice, discussion

We travelled out on the Rotterdam ferry back to Zeebrugge. The Rotterdam boat was bigger and the club cabins a bit nicer. Journey times were pretty much the same 7.5 hours no stops except fuel in Luxembourg and food in Colmar. Boarding in Rotterdam was stress free but in Hull they stick with the times and the waiting area sucks. The journey from Zeebrugge via Brussels was nasty as it rained and we narrowly missed out on about 3 accidents. I've done the Zeebrugge - Hull trip about 10 times and never been too stressed but was forced onto the Rotterdam route as there were no sailings from Zeebrugge on the days I needed, that said I will use the Rotterdam crossing again as it was nicer. ash
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Old 07.02.2008, 16:55
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Thanks for the input...booked P&O from Zeebrügge to Hull now.
Club Cabin with double bed, TV and minibar
if you have this club cabin, the contents of the minibar are included - there is no surcharge.

Helps you avoid the drunken, dressed-up northern lot playing bingo and enjoying the Abba tribute band, believe me
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Looking for some advice on the best route to take to Lucerne. I'll be coming down through Belguim - Luxembourg - France towards Mulhouse. Am I better to cross into Germany and cross the border via the A861 or through Basel via France. I'm not too concerned about some additional mileage but am looking for the least "stressful" experience and at a point where I can easily get a vignette without having to go to a Post Office. I noted in another thread that Basel should be avoided so if anyone ca give me some advice and brief route guidance it would be greatly appreciated

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Drive London to Zurich - tips

Hello,

We are planing a road trip from London to Zurich. Has anyone done this sort of trip before?

Can we get some suggestions on any major delays/cost (farry, Channel Tunnel) etc. We will be traveling with a three months old and will stay a night somewhere in France - any suggestions on reasonable bed and breakfast (don't know if I would see any travel lodge in the services station).

Besides insurance coverage, is there anything else I need to know from legal/law point of view.

errr Tom tom! I have never used any type of satnav before but now thinking of getting one for such a long trip; can anyone recommend a reasonably priced brand which is good in most European countries.

Many thanks in advance.

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Old 28.09.2008, 16:51
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Re: Drive London to Zurich - tips

Go for a Tom Tom nav, with the map of Western Europe.
They are fantasticly good and will work all the way along the journey.

As for accom, you could just look for a free room at whatever town you are in at about 5pm or so - look for houses with the signs "chambres" (rooms)
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Old 28.09.2008, 16:56
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Re: Drive London to Zurich - tips

Takes about 11 hours door to door if you use the chunnel, 45mins on the chunnel
Chunnel is cheapest early in the morning or late at night, I usually get the 7:21 chunnel when I do it.
The Ferries take 90mins and I avoid them, the chunnel is much much better.

You can go through France, Reims>Metz>Strasbourg>Basle and pay alot of tolls, or go through Belgium>Lille>Namur Luxembourg and save some money.
The difference in time is minimal.

See this thread
Driving to/from UK: Routes, advice, discussion
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Edit: Check the TomTom route..it can take you through the hills of Alsace, lovely drive but not for toddler who might get car sick.

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Old 28.09.2008, 17:30
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Re: Drive London to Zurich - tips

Speedferries.com - about £55 return, Dover - Boulogne.

Autoroutes through France: Riems > Strasbourg > in Germany to Basel > Zurich.

Pay the French tolls and save an agro. Cost about £25 each way. 8 hours behind the wheel from Boulogne to Zurich, but breaks advised. Think of an overnight stop in France Amiens, Laon, Riems etc...
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Old 28.09.2008, 20:17
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Re: Drive London to Zurich - tips

avoid Formule 1 as a place to stay (dodgy cheapo chain in France)

As AbFab says, if you swallow it and pay the tolls on the Péage, you will likely have no delays. Otherwise you might find Belgium to be horrid - especially near Namur.
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Old 28.09.2008, 23:19
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Can we get some suggestions on any major delays/cost (farry, Channel Tunnel) etc.
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There are still delays in the tunnel following the fire. See Eurotunnel site for latest info.

http://www.eurotunnel.com/ukcP3Main/...TravelInfo.htm

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Re: Driving to/from UK: Routes, advice, discussion

Came through the tunnel at the weekend and it was very quiet. Plenty of space visually and via online booking and departure left on time so I don't think there are any delays for new bookings at least.
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Old 29.09.2008, 13:30
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Re: Driving to/from UK: Routes, advice, discussion

I did the SpeedFerries Boulogne to Zürich lark last wekk, no problems, great weather and a nice relaxing drive. I did the France autoroutes version, in my opinion, it's worth paying the tolls to be able to drive that route, the roads are in good condition and very little traffic.
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Old 29.09.2008, 14:05
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Re: Driving to/from UK: Routes, advice, discussion

As an alternate and if you live anywhere near Portsmouth, I have taken the ferry from Caen to Portsmouth.

Ferry takes 3.5 hours on the sea cat, fast ferry thing and the drive to the channel is 9 hours (you do have to go round Paris though)
The journey takes me longer overall, but I spend less of it driving and more of it asleep on the ferry.
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errr Tom tom! I have never used any type of satnav before but now thinking of getting one for such a long trip; can anyone recommend a reasonably priced brand which is good in most European countries.

Many thanks in advance.

Raveel
For straight forward motorway driving from city to city you don't really need a sat nav, pick up last years AA road map book for +/- £3.99 and that should do you,also for peace of mind print off the directions from Michelin http://www.viamichelin.co.uk/viamichelin/gbr/tpl/hme/MaHomePage.htm?ck=OK, they point out all speed cameras along the way and toll fares.
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For straight forward motorway driving from city to city you don't really need a sat nav, pick up last years AA road map book for +/- £3.99 and that should do you,also for peace of mind print off the directions from Michelin http://www.viamichelin.co.uk/viamichelin/gbr/tpl/hme/MaHomePage.htm?ck=OK, they point out all speed cameras along the way and toll fares.
I hadn't seen this one before. I tend to use Google Maps. The Michelin one has clearer route details. One plus point with Google Maps is being able to drag the route on the map if you wish to make a diversion along the way

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Re: Driving to/from UK: Routes, advice, discussion

Resurrecting this old but very useful thread..

I am driving from Hertfordshire > Zurich in 2 weeks time, will either take the tunnel or ferry Dover - Calais and drive the French motorway route.

Can anyone recommend somewhere cheap to stay about 2/3rds of the way from Calais - Zurich, around Metz maybe? Any personal B&B/hotel recommendations welcome.

Cheers
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Re: Driving to/from UK: Routes, advice, discussion

http://www.ibishotel.com/gb/hotel-08...ux/index.shtml

IBIS hotel just outside Reims.
I've stopped here quite a few times because it's about halfway through my drive to the UK.
It's not an amazing hotel but it is clean, has a secure carpark and is easy to find just off the motorway, it's also not super expensive and you don't have to wade through rubbish French one-way systems to find it.
Nothing else to do other than sleep and drink a beer though.
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http://www.ibishotel.com/gb/hotel-08...ux/index.shtml

IBIS hotel just outside Reims.
I've stopped here quite a few times because it's about halfway through my drive to the UK.
It's not an amazing hotel but it is clean, has a secure carpark and is easy to find just off the motorway, it's also not super expensive and you don't have to wade through rubbish French one-way systems to find it.
Nothing else to do other than sleep and drink a beer though.
We've stayed here a few times as well. It's better than most of the others.
They've got a wood-fired grill in the restaurant which is really quite good for this sort of place.
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Re: Driving to/from UK: Routes, advice, discussion

Went to a French Porsche club meeting once that was held in this IBIS; surprisingly good. Attraction of the meeting was a tour, apero & dinner in the oldest Champange house in Reims.

Forgot to write that I usually stay in Reims when I drive to the UK. But usually in a hotel that is within walking distance of the centre - there is a really nice square surrounded by restaurants & bars that sell local champagnes by the glass.

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Re: Driving to/from UK: Routes, advice, discussion

I have drive to and from the UK 3 times this year already - and god knows how many times in the last few years. Below is my view - and is based on experience and a willingness to just drive

Calais to Zurich - best time 6:15** - yesterday was 7:35 - usual time around 7:30-8:00

Best Route? If you "Dunkirk" - do Lille and Luxembourg (for cheap fuel and road toll saving).

Strasbourg? Through the centre? Offenburg bridge? or French side? If one is busy - they will all be busy!! The German side however is a nightmare once the Lorry overtaking restriction is lifted - so go French.

Stopping? The best strategy for us is a 2 stopper - every 2.5 hours usually works. Eat on the move - only stop for fuel and toilet - at the same time.

Speed? Cruise control at 140kmh means you don't need to worry about the 130kmh zone cameras in France

Tolls? Buy/Rent a french toll unit from Sanef - it costs 2eur per month you use it - but it can save you a lot of time at the tolls - even a couple of minutes per booth can be 15mins.

Timing? Reim (calais to CH) is OK at 5pm - it isn't going the other way at that time. Avoid Strasbourg (both directions) at peak times - it will kill your time. The same is true of Lille if you go that way.

It is a long journey whichever route you do - but the above makes regular 7:30 runs possible.

**Arrived in Calais at 1900 in a 3.0 Z4 - and then drove at naughty speeds - I was in Basel in 5 hours (including 2 fuel stops) - 750km

ChesMatt - specifically answering your question:

Get the 1220 tunnel - and you can be in Zurich by 2200 following the above advice.
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