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Old 04.03.2016, 09:53
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Fixing a plastic bumper - yes or no?

So my OH managed to ignore the frantic beeps of the auto and did this!
I am ...

Anyway, EF help advice needed on repairs:

I was quoted 1800 chfs/1500 euro for a new bumper replacement and respray (in CH and in DE) - to high for me

or my local garage also offered to try to fix and respray but with no guarantee it might not crack in the future.

Any experience with fixing plastic and respraying?

Otherwise I can check the wreckers yard suggested in other posts, although the car is new-ish, I would need to find some one with a forward crashing wife.

Car is an 2011 BMW X3, F25
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Re: Fixing a plastic bumper - yes or no?

A better picture would help!

From the one you have posted it looks like the plastic has taken damage (rather than just the paint/lacquer).

If it was just a paint job it could be fixed for 300chf from a decent local spray shop - I have recommended one before -http://www.ernstfischer.ch/?pos=|30

The damage is the tricky bit - if it has punctured the surface any repair will be tricky - and a new one, including removal, spraying, fitting etc gets expensive
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Old 04.03.2016, 10:08
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Re: Fixing a plastic bumper - yes or no?

I would say replacing the bumper is basically a joke. No Swiss insurance company would ever go for it. I've been rear ended twice and both times the Spengler (body shop) fixed it like new. The second time was just a scratch like yours and it cost the other guy only 700 to have fixed.
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Old 04.03.2016, 10:13
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Re: Fixing a plastic bumper - yes or no?

Yes it is punctured on about 4 cms... the rest are scratches.

Maybe I just need to go for a bumper sticker
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Old 04.03.2016, 10:24
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I would say replacing the bumper is basically a joke. No Swiss insurance company would ever go for it. I've been rear ended twice and both times the Spengler (body shop) fixed it like new. The second time was just a scratch like yours and it cost the other guy only 700 to have fixed.
Quite the opposite is true, if there's actual damage to, i.e. cracks in, the plastic itself. Although these aren't technically 'bumpers' in the old meaning of the word, they are deemed part of a car's crumple zone, so no insurance company. nor most garages, is going to take a risk of you driving around with a repaired part that may fail in the future.

Personally I'd go for a repair if I could find someone to do it. Assuming it can be done with fibre glass/resin or a more modern equivalent mainly on the inside, then just re-smoothing and painting the exterior, it should pass visually without notice. But there may be some flex in these parts, so there is some risk of it simply cracking again in the future, and certainly it will be likely with even a slight contact, but then again they normally crack with such ease anyway it's unlikely to be much different.
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Re: Fixing a plastic bumper - yes or no?

I've repaired several, but I have the proper stuff to do so (some two component stuff from 3M and a special dispenser gun).

I don't bother with a respray, though.

Personally, I'd just leave it.

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Re: Fixing a plastic bumper - yes or no?

Is the car leased or not??

Someone (not me or the wife) scuffed the back of the daily drive - possible walking past with a bag or something. It should needs a "blow over" to take it out - haven't arranged it yet!
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Re: Fixing a plastic bumper - yes or no?

Car is ours... I bought it in 2013, it was in mint condition with service from BMW included up to 100k. Since then not had any scrapes or bumps of note.

But this one is kind of too small for a full repaire, so either I live with it or repaire it... thanks for all the inputs
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Old 04.03.2016, 10:57
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Re: Fixing a plastic bumper - yes or no?

You are aware that it doesn't matter how long you wait to repair the damage, as soon as you do someone will damage it.
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You are aware that it doesn't matter how long you wait to repair the damage, as soon as you do someone will damage it.
Agree.. I have experienced it.

Scratch in the rear bumper (About 30-35 cms). Drove with it for nearly 1.5 years and got it repaired by parking insurance. Three weeks later someone has damaged the same area again (not a scratch but a dent in the same exact spot)
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Old 04.03.2016, 11:08
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Quite the opposite is true, if there's actual damage to, i.e. cracks in, the plastic itself. Although these aren't technically 'bumpers' in the old meaning of the word, they are deemed part of a car's crumple zone, so no insurance company. nor most garages, is going to take a risk of you driving around with a repaired part that may fail in the future.
Actually not so much.

Most OEMs will list the actual part number for what is called the "bumper" as a bumper cover, and in most cases of modern car it is literally a plastic shell that covers up the actual crumple zones, that are longitudinal and cross beams.

They are decoration pieces with little actual function other than mounting the parking sensors (since they're the most outward pieces of the car) and little if any absorbing capability.
Low speed absorbing (up to walking pace) is handled by either foam behind the cover or dampers that are mounting inside the support beams or on the cross member.

If you see here you could probably get away with replacing just #5 if you want to be completely pedantic.

For reference part #1 in this diagramme is actually the load supporting part that will transfer the load to the twin #4 part that will crumble and save your cars ass (literally since it's the rear we're talking about )

If you don't have money burning a hole in your pocket, just repair it and respray it. It's a crack and scratch on a completely decorating part of your car, so treat it as such.
You don't need to replace anything, and the garages are just being a-holes that look for an easy buck.
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Re: Fixing a plastic bumper - yes or no?

2011 already means 5-year old car... so it already starts to become questionable whether small cosmetic repairs are worth doing.

Personally I'd first give it a few weeks to get past the itch to fix the scratch as they say, then think about it more rationally.

To me it looks too small and not visible enough to be worth a "proper" fix. I'd probably get a colour-matched touch up paint for 3 quid or so and mask some of the visible white spots temporarily, and wait until more things like this accumulate on the bumper (they will).

In UK there are companies like "chipsaway" that do a quite good job of fixing this kind of small scratches for not too much money, not sure if here there are similar things in CH. Either that or a sanding+resin fix+respray in a small garage should not cost more than 300 chuffs - though probably not in a swiss garage

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Re: Fixing a plastic bumper - yes or no?

You can find a bumper on Ebay for €100. If you're lucky and put up a search agent, maybe one in the correct color will come up for grabs!

http://www.ebay.de/itm/ORIGINAL-BMW-...MAAOSwDNdVvqLY
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I would say replacing the bumper is basically a joke.
^^^ What he said. Drill it if you think the crack will get bigger, fill it, paint it. You'll hardly notice it. And/or put some grey/black tape across it to look like factory trim. If you want to save a few CHF that is. Otherwise like someone else said, do an ebay search although that means you'll have to get it fitted of course.
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Old 04.03.2016, 13:54
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Re: Fixing a plastic bumper - yes or no?

Wow thanks to who ever mentioned ebay (tobias!)... 99 euro... do I go for it? I can get it shipped to the post pack place over the border...

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Original-BMW-...kAAOSwjVVVk92I
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Car is ours... I bought it in 2013, it was in mint condition with service from BMW included up to 100k. Since then not had any scrapes or bumps of note.

But this one is kind of too small for a full repaire, so either I live with it or repaire it... thanks for all the inputs
I had similar problem and first hand great experience with these guys in Germany for €350 + VAT (old bumper fixed with special enforcing fiber and repainted). Offered no guarantee either, but so far so good. It looks impeccable job quality wise.

Reversed into dangerously parked neighbour's trailer!

Although it seems like unpainted piece in the picture, but maybe using imagination they can match some black paint with it.

These guys are gurus when it comes to fixing and advicing. Otherwise get it filled in with some resin and try to cover it by putting on the sticker. What your country's flag tiny strip will look like on it?
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Re: Fixing a plastic bumper - yes or no?

If I had to go for a country bumper sticker I would go for "ZW" ... makes me laugh every time I see it, Zurich Weinland

But anyway probably cost as much as this awesome bumper I just bought on ebay...

not quite sure if they actually ship, but we'll get to that bridge later on, probably after I explain to the OH my awesome/cheap repair plan.
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If I had to go for a country bumper sticker I would go for "ZW" ... makes me laugh every time I see it, Zurich Weinland

But anyway probably cost as much as this awesome bumper I just bought on ebay...

not quite sure if they actually ship, but we'll get to that bridge later on, probably after I explain to the OH my awesome/cheap repair plan.
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I'd go for: <huge image>
You don't think that might encourage further damage

Perhaps in true Trump style you could take a piece from the front bumper and affix over the exposed part.
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