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I was flashed yesterday by this m**%+***%@.... GET WHAT I MEAN!
They are using a new type of van it is in the Lutry and Pully area. They could be using them in other areas but I have seen them in Lausanne. (been flashed twice, luckily not going too fast) The radar is pointing out the back window so watch out!
As you can see they are pulled up on the grass!
now I will hide behind my sunglasses!

Similar thing happened to me this am. How do you check the official speed limit on a long road with no signs, i.e. the road from St Cergue to Nyon, its a long winding road but no speed signs, If they clock you but dont stop you , is it likely you will be fined.?
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Old 18.11.2009, 14:09
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I'm with you, more focus should be given to bad driving and nailing drink drivers, than raping my wallet for the odd 5 kms over the speed limit.

Give me a speeder driving safely within the limits of there car and ability anytime over those tailgating, lane changing ars****es, with the indicator stuck on....whats with that!!!

Speeding tolerance should also be given for anyoine listening to Thin Lizzy very loud.
You posted before me, what is with the drivers here tailgating, that to me is more dangerous than someone doing 110 in a 100... not that I approve of speeding of course.
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Old 18.11.2009, 14:20
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Re: New Police radar car!!!

Outside of town's u r supposed to drive 80kmh max unless there are signs restricting it to 50/60 etc beforehand
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Old 18.11.2009, 14:21
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may sound a real dumb question by why do most people over speed in the first place?
Are speed limits meant to be broken?

I heard from a friend over some drinks that the Zurich police collects speeding fines in the range of MILLIONS every year...
Let me ask you an alternative question: if you are asked to drive at a certain speed over a distance of 30km, how much are you likely to deviate from that speed bearing in mind accuracy of the speedometer, changing slope of the road and over-taking/manoeuvring between lanes? +/- 5kph? 10kph?
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How do you know what is the official limit when there are no signs around i.e the road from St Cergue to Nyon. Lots os bends then a long straight bit. Only seems to have speed signs on entering the town,villages.?
I wa clocked this morning mid route, but not stopped. I guess I could still recieve a fine?
Fron the official road code? In town 50, Outside town 80, Highway 120 unless signage indicates otherwise? Or is this a trick question
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Let me ask you an alternative question: if you are asked to drive at a certain speed over a distance of 30km, how much are you likely to deviate from that speed bearing in mind accuracy of the speedometer, changing slope of the road and over-taking/manoeuvring between lanes? +/- 5kph? 10kph?
"I assure you sir - when I started at the crest of the hill I was way below the speed limit".
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Old 18.11.2009, 14:36
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Re: New Police radar car!!!

Interesting place where the van is parked in the picture - beside a yellow line on the sidewalk! Mere mortals would collect fines for parking at the yellow line (probably a bus stop) and on the sidewalk. Some people don't seem to be equal.
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may sound a real dumb question by why do most people over speed in the first place?
Are speed limits meant to be broken?
Most people speed because they drive according to the road conditions rather than what the speed limit signs say.

I would much prefer a driver who is aware of the road conditions ahead than constantly checking the speedo in their car.
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"I assure you sir - when I started at the crest of the hill I was way below the speed limit".
Don't think if you are way below speed limit, you are safe. I have heard someone drove at 50km/h in a 80km zone(she probably didn't aware of she was out of town), she got pull over by a cop. He only issued a warning to her, but you never know what will happen next time...
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Re: New Police radar car!!!

Yep, the speedos on most cars are not so accurate, also watch the change to Winter tyres, it throws in another variable.

We had a digital indicator in our village (dont know how accurate they are) but I had just bought a new (well 2nd hand......) and after four trips around the block, I established 60 on the speedo was 51kph (the correct speed in a 50 kph zone or you will get flashed/tailgated/horn blown or all at once by some Swiss driver in a big ass 4wd!!!)(it is probably my wife she is Swiss and drives as such!!!) but I did get a big WTF from my neighbour watching!!
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Re: New Police radar car!!!

There's so much codswallop talked about speeding.

Because no account is taken of the context of the offence, people are criminalised when they represent no danger to themselves or anyone else. There's no other law like it.

It's not a question of 'obey the law'. It's a question of 'why are we paying people to design and enforce blatantly unreasonable laws'.
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Old 23.11.2009, 08:37
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Yep, the speedos on most cars are not so accurate, also watch the change to Winter tyres, it throws in another variable.

We had a digital indicator in our village (dont know how accurate they are) but I had just bought a new (well 2nd hand......) and after four trips around the block, I established 60 on the speedo was 51kph (the correct speed in a 50 kph zone or you will get flashed/tailgated/horn blown or all at once by some Swiss driver in a big ass 4wd!!!)(it is probably my wife she is Swiss and drives as such!!!) but I did get a big WTF from my neighbour watching!!
Uh, don't trust those. They are not required to be accurate. Only the camera radar and laser speed detectors are required to be certified and calibrated to be accurate. (hopefully) If you really want to know how fast you are going then get a GPS navigation device. They are accurate to a km/h on average. If your Tom Tom or Garmin or what have you says that you are going 50 for more than a few seconds then it probably is the speed you are going. This is also a good way of determining how inaccurate you speedometer is.

Another point for everyone who is flashed by the little white van. They take your picture if you are even 1 km/h over the limit. They won't send you a ticket until you are at least 3 most likely 5 over the limit. I know this because I was going 51km/h and was flashed. I went back a bitched at the guy, asking why I was flashed for going the speed limit. He looked at me like I was crazy, which by his definitions I was. But after checking I discovered that the area (near Morges) gives you a "grace" leeway.

BTW, remember any camera based enforcement system is all about money. It has nothing to do with safety. If they wanted more safety then they would put more police on the roads and streets but that costs money. Cameras make money. If you were a bureaucrat trying to come up with more money for the council which would you want?

Speed traps are a semi-random road usage tax. After all if you try to drive the speed limit you will go over occasionally. And to the councils this is actually good as it makes them money. All the complaints about safety aside, you don't think that they actually want to stop getting fines, do you? After all if they made the speed laws reflect the road dangers then we would be more likely to follow the posted limits. I know that I am always surprised by the fact that I am restricted when there is no danger and not restricted when the danger is manifestly real but not necessarily obvious.

Also, if they made the traffic lights duration appropriate for the size of junction and speed of traffic then they would not make money on those cameras either. If the authorities were worried about safety then they would make speeds and intersections safe. I don't understand why people buy the argument anymore. If there are so many red light or speeding violations that there needs to be camera enforcement then the layout of the roads need to be changed. But that wouldn't be good for business. I would applaud it's affect on safety. But that is not the point.

BTW, I must be the only person that actually goes the limit in towns and school zones. So no point telling me that I should slow down. I have.

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It's not about speeding, it's about flexibility (yeah, right, with swiss germans). In Zürich, most speed cameras are set at a 2km/h tolerance, which IIRC is way more precise than the tachometers in cars are.
This means that you have to continuously check your tachometer instead of looking at the road in front of you, and so much for improving safety.

On a related note, if you're in the Baden/Wettingen area and you see a purple Renault Twingo, slow down. It's a speed camera.
The above is 100% truth and I hope more stone-head people understand it!

The driving is not "digital", it is "analog"

Drive fast and safe

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we need more of those kind of actions :
http://www.gaskrank.tv/tv/motorrad-fun/staren-4609.htm
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Most people speed because they drive according to the road conditions rather than what the speed limit signs say.

I would much prefer a driver who is aware of the road conditions ahead than constantly checking the speedo in their car.
100% correct

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