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Towbar installation in Germany

I'm planning to add a towbar to my car. For cost reasons, I'm leaning towards getting it done (parts and labor) in Germany.

I've contacted a couple of garages and was informed that a "Zertifizierungsdokument" will be provided. Note that towbar part is OEM and dealer installed.

Is this document all I need to then register my towbar at the StVA? If not, could someone advise what else I should ask for? The exact German-word would be really helpful.

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I recently paid CHF 800, parts, wiring and inspection included. How much in Germany?

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I'm planning to add a towbar to my car. For cost reasons, I'm leaning towards getting it done (parts and labor) in Germany.

I've contacted a couple of garages and was informed that a "Zertifizierungsdokument" will be provided. Note that towbar part is OEM and dealer installed.

Is this document all I need to then register my towbar at the StVA? If not, could someone advise what else I should ask for? The exact German-word would be really helpful.

Thanks.
You will also need to go through a StVA inspection after installation. The documentation for the product specifies how much weight in can pull. This information is entered into your car registration paper. Make sure there is a corresponding decal on the actual product.
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I recently paid CHF 800, parts, wiring and inspection included. How much in Germany?

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The cheapest offer I've received so far is EUR 1050 (parts, wiring, labor, 19% vat).

Unfortunately, my car will require a rear-bumper cut for the towbar, and so I prefer a dealer to do such job. I estimate an independent garage in Germany will probably come in at EUR 700-800.

The stealers here in CH want >CHF 1600 for the same job.
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You will also need to go through a StVA inspection after installation. The documentation for the product specifies how much weight in can pull. This information is entered into your car registration paper. Make sure there is a corresponding decal on the actual product.
I understand that I have to go to the StVA for inspection. But what is the exact name of the document or certificate that I need to present to the StVA guys?

Garage told me that they will provide a "Zertifizierungsdokument". Is this the exact document that StVA will look for? As I previously mentioned, towbar part is OEM and will be dealer installed.
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I understand that I have to go to the StVA for inspection. But what is the exact name of the document or certificate that I need to present to the StVA guys?

Garage told me that they will provide a "Zertifizierungsdokument". Is this the exact document that StVA will look for? As I previously mentioned, towbar part is OEM and will be dealer installed.
In my case, StVA simply looked at the decal on the towbar. It stated its pulling weight capacity. No other documentation was asked for. But you ought to keep yours just in case. Some of these StVA inspectors may be wishy washy.

Make sure they test the electric connection before StVA inspection. And I believe there are 2 types of electric ports. You probably want the latest Europe standard.

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The cheapest offer I've received so far is EUR 1050 (parts, wiring, labor, 19% vat).

Unfortunately, my car will require a rear-bumper cut for the towbar, and so I prefer a dealer to do such job. I estimate an independent garage in Germany will probably come in at EUR 700-800.

The stealers here in CH want >CHF 1600 for the same job.
May I ask you what make and model of car that is?
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In my case, StVA simply looked at the decal on the towbar. It stated its pulling weight capacity. No other documentation was asked for. But you ought to keep yours just in case. Some of these StVA inspectors may be wishy washy.

Make sure they test the electric connection before StVA inspection. And I believe there are 2 types of electric ports. You probably want the latest Europe standard.



May I ask you what make and model of car that is?
Thanks Phos.

I think this Zertifizierungsdokument should be enough. Anyway, I'll get in touch with StVA and ask for my peace of mind.

Car is Volvo XC90.
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Re: Towbar installation in Germany

Main dealer prices are always steep here - you may find a local mechanic who will do it for less.

At least Volvo are cheaper than BMW for towbars
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Main dealer prices are always steep here - you may find a local mechanic who will do it for less.

At least Volvo are cheaper than BMW for towbars
I pulled one from salvage, paid about CHF100. Required 6 large bolts, and some wire splicing.

I think the towbars themselves can be bought new for a couple of hundred online, and then someone like you can install it for about, say 500?
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Unfortunately, my car will require a rear-bumper cut for the towbar.
So did mine, still CHF 800 all in.

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Thanks Phos.

I think this Zertifizierungsdokument should be enough. Anyway, I'll get in touch with StVA and ask for my peace of mind.

Car is Volvo XC90.
Maypril,

I may be mistaken, it wouldn't be the first time, but if you read:
http://www.stva.zh.ch/dam/sicherheit...AHKS201608.pdf

it would seem to be that a simple COC and the numbers marked on the part may not be sufficient. As it is a relatively significant modification, which also has safety relevance, it would appear that who fits the equipment is also an issue.

Here is the form which must be filled out. Note that this includes fields detailing the garage which performed the work, as well as their permit to do such work:

http://www.stva.zh.ch/dam/sicherheit...AHKS201608.pdf

From the above I note that this is for towbars not originally fitted at the factory.

Importing a car with a towbar already fitted may be a different procedure as well.

Contact your local StVA and make sure that they will approve your towbar before you have it fitted in Germany. It would be frustrating if you discover that you need to pay the local Swiss dealership the money that you thought you had saved just for the sake of them filling out the paperwork. (I can also understanding their charging for this too.)
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Maypril,

I may be mistaken, it wouldn't be the first time, but if you read:
http://www.stva.zh.ch/dam/sicherheit...AHKS201608.pdf

it would seem to be that a simple COC and the numbers marked on the part may not be sufficient. As it is a relatively significant modification, which also has safety relevance, it would appear that who fits the equipment is also an issue.

Here is the form which must be filled out. Note that this includes fields detailing the garage which performed the work, as well as their permit to do such work:

http://www.stva.zh.ch/dam/sicherheit...AHKS201608.pdf

From the above I note that this is for towbars not originally fitted at the factory.

Importing a car with a towbar already fitted may be a different procedure as well.

Contact your local StVA and make sure that they will approve your towbar before you have it fitted in Germany. It would be frustrating if you discover that you need to pay the local Swiss dealership the money that you thought you had saved just for the sake of them filling out the paperwork. (I can also understanding their charging for this too.)
The Swiss dealer likewise told me that they will give me a "Zertifizierungen" to present to StVA. I'm not sure if this is the same doc you linked to. My impression is that both Swiss and German dealer will give me the same (or similar) documentation.

The doc you linked to, can I print it out, have the installing garage fill the details, then go to StVA for inspection with ONLY this document??

I understand that the StVA inspection will be 2-parts, for the towbar components and the assembly work. The towbar is OEM so documents should be available. But how is it for assembly work?
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So did mine, still CHF 800 all in.

Tom
Tom, what document/s did you present to StVA for approval? I understand you assembled it yourself, how 'detailed' were they during inspection? Thanks.
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Contact your local StVA and make sure that they will approve your towbar before you have it fitted in Germany. It would be frustrating if you discover that you need to pay the local Swiss dealership the money that you thought you had saved just for the sake of them filling out the paperwork. (I can also understanding their charging for this too.)
I'm contacting StVA before going ahead with fitting. I'll surely be pissed if the +600CHF I'll save by going to Germany will simply evaporate if I need to pay a Swiss dealer for paperwork.
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The Swiss dealer likewise told me that they will give me a "Zertifizierungen" to present to StVA. I'm not sure if this is the same doc you linked to. My impression is that both Swiss and German dealer will give me the same (or similar) documentation.

The doc you linked to, can I print it out, have the installing garage fill the details, then go to StVA for inspection with ONLY this document??

I understand that the StVA inspection will be 2-parts, for the towbar components and the assembly work. The towbar is OEM so documents should be available. But how is it for assembly work?
Maypril,

As I understand it, for documentation you need to supply:
Fahrzeugausweis: the grey car for your car
CoC/Zertifizieung: Document proving that the piece of kit was designed for use on your vehicle, and has been tested by a relevant authority.
Bestätigung: the form I linked to above. I looked at the Zurich site, but this was the only form I found that would needed to be filled in and submitted as part of the process for getting the Towbar installation approved.

Regardless of who installed the towbar, they will examine the installation for workmanship. What I am a bit unsure of is if you need to also provide documentary proof that the installation was performed by a shop/person which has been approved by the StVA to carry out such work.

I've never had a towbar approved, so I may be getting worked up about nothing.

Are there any EFers who have had a towbar fitted in Germany, to a Swiss registered car, and had that subsequently approved by the StVA? Has anyone done their own installation and had that approved?
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Are there any EFers who have had a towbar fitted in Germany, to a Swiss registered car, and had that subsequently approved by the StVA? Has anyone done their own installation and had that approved?
Yes, like I said, I did. They were only concerned about the quality of installation, wiring, and identifying the load capacity of the product. I don't know if they were being lenient with me.
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Yes, like I said, I did. They were only concerned about the quality of installation, wiring, and identifying the load capacity of the product. I don't know if they were being lenient with me.
Ok. So you just went along, showed them the COC, and they filled in their own form?

I don't think of them being "lenient" (who would want that?) but there are cases when they can be a bit "obstreperous" if something seems to bother them, so if they happen to have a book to throw, they may.
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Ok. So you just went along, showed them the COC, and they filled in their own form?

I don't think of them being "lenient" (who would want that?) but there are cases when they can be a bit "obstreperous" if something seems to bother them, so if they happen to have a book to throw, they may.
I agree, I would also expect the worse. So I agree Maypril should confirm it all. A dealer colleague tells me some cantons are much more straight forward than others, and some can entangle people in bureaucracy.
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Jag, Phos,

Thanks for your feedback. I'll contact StVA ZH before proceeding in any case. I'll post here whatever feedback I receive from them and when I do get my towbar installed and approved.
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Ok. So you just went along, showed them the COC, and they filled in their own form?

I don't think of them being "lenient" (who would want that?) but there are cases when they can be a bit "obstreperous" if something seems to bother them, so if they happen to have a book to throw, they may.
Recently I had the problem that an inspector noticed that my foot-brake lever was not OEM. Obviously, as the whole foot controls had been replaced in 1988. Fortunately, I still had the paperwork from the manufacturer. So now my paperwork states that I have a non-OEM brake lever (they didn't care about the rest, even though it was all in the same paperwork).

Oh, and the bike didn't idle because he didn't bother to open the fuel petcock, so the carbs ran dry.

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