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02.09.2016, 23:40
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Hi,
I'm an EU-national and a permit B holder in Switzerland. May I borrow my father's car that is registered in an EU country and drive it to Switzerland (like for a week and then back to the EU)?
I've heard some rumors that this would be illegal.
Thanks
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02.09.2016, 23:47
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| | Re: Borrowing an EU-registered car and driving to CH
It is not illegal; but you might be forced to pay import duty on the value of the car | The following 2 users would like to thank marton for this useful post: | | 
02.09.2016, 23:53
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| | Re: Borrowing an EU-registered car and driving to CH
Illegal or paying import duty, that both sucks. I just want to move some stuff to CH and then leave with the car. So basically I can't do it.
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02.09.2016, 23:55
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| | Re: Borrowing an EU-registered car and driving to CH | Quote: | |  | | | Illegal or paying import duty, that both sucks. I just want to move some stuff to CH and then leave with the car. So basically I can't do it. | | | | | It would be ok if your dad was with you.
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06.09.2016, 22:59
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| | Re: Borrowing an EU-registered car and driving to CH
Anyone know the reasoning behind this rule?
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06.09.2016, 23:05
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| | Re: Borrowing an EU-registered car and driving to CH | Quote: | |  | | | Anyone know the reasoning behind this rule? | | | | | Countries do not like people importing valuable objects without paying import fees | This user would like to thank marton for this useful post: | | 
06.09.2016, 23:08
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| | Re: Borrowing an EU-registered car and driving to CH | Quote: | |  | | | Countries do not like people importing valuable objects without paying import fees  | | | | | Haha - yeah, but the valuable object are not staying for very long in the country in this example. And the guy driving the car into CH doesn't even own it... I just can't see how they can justify this regulation?
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06.09.2016, 23:19
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| | Re: Borrowing an EU-registered car and driving to CH | Quote: | |  | | | Illegal or paying import duty, that both sucks. I just want to move some stuff to CH and then leave with the car. So basically I can't do it. | | | | | more details here: http://www.ezv.admin.ch/zollinfo_pri...x.html?lang=en
as JagWaugh said, better if your dad sits in the car with you...
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06.09.2016, 23:20
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| | Re: Borrowing an EU-registered car and driving to CH | Quote: | |  | | | Haha - yeah, but the valuable object are not staying for very long in the country in this example. And the guy driving the car into CH doesn't even own it... I just can't see how they can justify this regulation? | | | | | This thread might have some additional clarification, as we recently discussed the issue with respect to rental cars. Same concept - Swiss resident driving on EU plates = potential import duties. New EU law regarding car hire | This user would like to thank 3Wishes for this useful post: | | 
06.09.2016, 23:21
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| | Re: Borrowing an EU-registered car and driving to CH | Quote: | |  | | | Haha - yeah, but the valuable object are not staying for very long in the country in this example. And the guy driving the car into CH doesn't even own it... I just can't see how they can justify this regulation? | | | | | Try entering any country with an object worth tens of thousands and telling the Customs officer "It is not mine and I will be leaving soon"
Do you know the expression "Possession is nine-tenths of the law"? | The following 2 users would like to thank marton for this useful post: | | 
06.09.2016, 23:22
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| | Re: Borrowing an EU-registered car and driving to CH | Quote: | |  | | | Haha - yeah, but the valuable object are not staying for very long in the country in this example. And the guy driving the car into CH doesn't even own it... I just can't see how they can justify this regulation? | | | | | Works both ways, i.e. an EU resident driving a Swiss registered vehicle.
It's a customs violation, it's not illegal. BUT it can cost you 80% of the value of the vehicle!
Legally, it's enough to declare it at the border, and re-export after a couple days.
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06.09.2016, 23:26
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| | Re: Borrowing an EU-registered car and driving to CH | Quote: | |  | | | Try entering any country with an object worth tens of thousands and telling the Customs officer "It is not mine and I will be leaving soon"
Do you know the expression "Possession is nine-tenths of the law"?  | | | | | I wonder how the airline pilots get away with it.
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06.09.2016, 23:29
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| | Re: Borrowing an EU-registered car and driving to CH | Quote: | |  | | | I wonder how the airline pilots get away with it. | | | | | The planes do not cross the border! They stay in the international area on the "non Land side" of the airport; you know, before Customs and Immigration.
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06.09.2016, 23:31
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| | Re: Borrowing an EU-registered car and driving to CH | Quote: | |  | | | Try entering any country with an object worth tens of thousands and telling the Customs officer "It is not mine and I will be leaving soon" | | | | | Maybe, but showing a rental contract from any respected rental-company, should be enough proof that your intentions are to return the vehicle :-)
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06.09.2016, 23:33
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| | Re: Borrowing an EU-registered car and driving to CH | Quote: | |  | | | The planes do not cross the border! They stay in the international area on the "non Land side" of the airport; you know, before Customs and Immigration. | | | | | Good answer. Hadn't thought of that.
Not to be a piss ant, serious question to any pilots: What about private aircraft? Affoltern a Albis and Birr haven't got non land zones, do they?
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| | Re: Borrowing an EU-registered car and driving to CH | Quote: | |  | | | Good answer. Hadn't thought of that.
Not to be a piss ant, serious question to any pilots: What about private aircraft? Affoltern a Albis and Birr haven't got non land zones, do they? | | | | | They are supposed to make their first landing at a "designated port of entry" which automatically has Customs.
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07.09.2016, 00:00
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| | Re: Borrowing an EU-registered car and driving to CH | Quote: | |  | | | Maybe, but showing a rental contract from any respected rental-company, should be enough proof that your intentions are to return the vehicle :-) | | | | | And nobody would ever think of scanning such a document, making some adjustments and then printing it?
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07.09.2016, 10:04
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| | Re: Borrowing an EU-registered car and driving to CH | Quote: | |  | | | And nobody would ever think of scanning such a document, making some adjustments and then printing it? | | | | | ...I'm sure there is, but if you're willing to commit forgery in the first place, you won't have any problems driving an EU-registered car into Switzerland...
There will always be criminals, I'm just wondering what underlying problems (and how big they really are) this law actually fixes.
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07.09.2016, 10:13
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| | Re: Borrowing an EU-registered car and driving to CH | Quote: | |  | | | ...I'm sure there is, but if you're willing to commit forgery in the first place, you won't have any problems driving an EU-registered car into Switzerland...
There will always be criminals, I'm just wondering what underlying problems (and how big they really are) this law actually fixes. | | | | | When you enter Switzerland you have to declare goods over 300CHF, that you have acquired since you left CH. You can do a temporary import & pay for the paperwork which is valid for a few days. Smuggling is the offence this law fixes.
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08.09.2016, 00:12
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| | Re: Borrowing an EU-registered car and driving to CH | Quote: | |  | | | Maybe, but showing a rental contract from any respected rental-company, should be enough proof that your intentions are to return the vehicle :-) | | | | | Just did this today. In exchange I got a nice paper with a stamp which allows me to use the car for the next 8 days 
You have also to show the cars registration document.
Interestingly, and non Switzerland like, the customs paper was free of charge. | The following 2 users would like to thank aSwissInTheUS for this useful post: | |
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