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Car train over the Gotthard?

I can't find much information about this on the internet and also not on the forum and yet I have seen car trains near the Gotthard. Can anyone tell me if there is such a train and at which station the cars go onto the trains in order to go through the tunnel?
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Re: Car train over the Gotthard?

probably this one: https://www.matterhorngotthardbahn.c...se/autoverlad/

but under the Gotthard
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Old 14.09.2016, 09:24
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Re: Car train over the Gotthard?

There are none since decades, and they didn't go over, but under, but that ended in 1980.

There are the ones that go under the Furka, Simplon, Loetschberg, and Vereina. The only one of those near the Gotthard is the Furka, which goes between Realp and Oberwald.

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There are non since decades
Native language English? Someone has definitely been away from Britain for too long!
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I can't find much information about this on the internet and also not on the forum and yet I have seen car trains near the Gotthard. Can anyone tell me if there is such a train and at which station the cars go onto the trains in order to go through the tunnel?
Do you mean you want to have your car transported by train? If so, do you perhaps mean this route:
(Bern -) Spiez - Lötschberg tunnel - Brig - Simplon tunnel - Iselle di Trasquera (Italy) - Domodossola (Italy), you can have your car taken piggyback(?) in Spiez or in Brig.

AFAIK those listed here are all available train cars in Switzerland.
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Native language English? Someone has definitely been away from Britain for too long!
or from one of her former colonies ?
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Re: Car train over the Gotthard?

There is:
A train from Göschenen up to Andermatt (run by MGB).
A train from Göschenen under the Gotthard to Airolo (run by SBB).
A train from Andermatt towards Sedrun over the Oberalp (run by MGB, also a car train in winter when pass road is closed)
A train from Andermatt towards Oberwald under the Furka (run by MGB, also car train from Realp all year round)
A scenic historic steam train from Realp over the Furka to Oberwald known as the Dampfbahn Furka Bergstrecke https://www.dfb.ch (only summer months, some runs use a diesel locomotive)
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A train from Göschenen up to Andermatt (run by MGB).
A train from Göschenen under the Gotthard to Airolo (run by SBB).
A train from Andermatt towards Sedrun over the Oberalp (run by MGB, also a car train in winter when pass road is closed)
A train from Andermatt towards Oberwald under the Furka (run by MGB, also car train from Realp all year round)
A scenic historic steam train from Realp over the Furka to Oberwald known as the Dampfbahn Furka Bergstrecke https://www.dfb.ch
Yes, but only two of those are car trains.

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Re: Car train over the Gotthard?

Perhaps the OP could indicate where they are wishing to start from, and where they wish to end up they might yield some more concrete answers.

Or is there just a general desire to put a car on a train for the sheer entertainment inherent in the act of doing so?
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Re: Car train over the Gotthard?

thanks and sorry about the delay in coming back. I want to get me car to Tessin without driving through the Gotthard tunnel, that is the reason for my question in a nutshell. Up to now we have been going to Tessin by train and bus but then once there it would be nice to have a car to drive around with around the small villages since the postautos are few and far between.
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Re: Car train over the Gotthard?

Many options to avoid Gotthard Tunnel:
- Gotthard Pass.
- San Bernardino (Pass or Tunnel).
- Furka, Nufenen
- Julier, Maloja, SS340dir, SS340.
- Lötschberg-Simplon Car Train from Kandersteg to Iselle and then through the Centovalli or SS33, SS34.

But those take a bit to up to a lot more time.
Also, with the Gotthard Base Train Tunel the journey Zug-Lugano will take just 1 hour and 50 minutes. They will use the new route starting December 11 2016.
http://www.fahrplanentwurf.ch/filead...s/2017/600.pdf
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Old 17.09.2016, 11:07
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Many options to avoid Gotthard Tunnel:
- Gotthard Pass.
- San Bernardino (Pass or Tunnel).
- Furka, Nufenen
- Julier, Maloja, SS340dir, SS340.
- Lötschberg-Simplon Car Train from Kandersteg to Iselle and then through the Centovalli or SS33, SS34.
You forgot:

- Oberalp, Lucomagno
- Chur, Lucomagno
- Splugen Pass

Anyway, from Menzingen (if that's where you really are), easiest is San Bernardino, or Chur-Lucomagno.

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Old 17.09.2016, 11:19
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Re: Car train over the Gotthard?

The question is why would you wish to miss the breathtaking landscapes by going under the mountains and not over them?
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Re: Car train over the Gotthard?

Thanks, and yes, I am really in Menzingen, but not very good at finding my way around as you can see I'll have another look at a map and look at those other routes you suggest.
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Re: Car train over the Gotthard?

You have a point Slammer but I'm hearing so many bad things about traffic jams and long waits at the entrance to the Gotthard, I thought it best to avoid that. So which route would you suggest (bearing in mind I am in Menzingen
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Thanks, and yes, I am really in Menzingen, but not very good at finding my way around as you can see I'll have another look at a map and look at those other routes you suggest.
Or if you don't like driving there, how about going by train and hiring a car in Ticino, or joining Mobility.
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You have a point Slammer but I'm hearing so many bad things about traffic jams and long waits at the entrance to the Gotthard, I thought it best to avoid that. So which route would you suggest (bearing in mind I am in Menzingen
Bobby,

When there is a crush on because of school holidays or such, pretty much all of the routes are overloaded.

If the weather permits I prefer the pass, notwithstanding children with a tendency for carsickness.
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Old 17.09.2016, 11:31
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If the weather permits I prefer the pass, notwithstanding children with a tendency for carsickness.
Yes, but when they are packed into the sidecar, you don't notice it.

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Yes, but when they are packed into the sidecar, you don't notice it.

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Or a Thule box for the MIL.
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