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Re: The rule of electronic scooter in Zurich or Switzerland

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I am riding a electronic scooter (like the one shown below) recently in Zurich for commuting. Can anyone here tell me whether there is any specific rule for electronic scooter in Zurich?

By googling it, it seems that electronic scooter should be considered the same as a bicycle (using only bicycle lane). But I can see many people riding it on side walks (even in front of police), and in many streets, there is no bicycle lane.

My strategy now is to use bicycle lane when there is one, or otherwise just ride it on the side walks.

Your feedbacks are really appreciated.
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You are driving an unallowed 5400W electrical vehicle that can reach 80km/hr.

Forget everything that has been said about just getting a fine, this goes way beyond all those "toy" scooters you see everywhere, this is almost breaking the maximum amount of laws possible with a scooter.

Tip: If you get an accident regardless of who is at fault, offer loads of money to buy it off and keep police and insurances out of it.
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Old 09.10.2019, 13:02
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Re: electric scooter - rules?

Can anyone in the know, tell me if these 2 electric scooters are road legal here? The website says they are, but I can't bring myself to 100% trust it. Cheers.

https://www.microspot.ch/de/freizeit...r--p0001434866

https://www.microspot.ch/de/freizeit...gaAm6tEALw_wcB
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Old 09.10.2019, 13:17
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Re: electric scooter - rules?

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Can anyone in the know, tell me if these 2 electric scooters are road legal here? The website says they are, but I can't bring myself to 100% trust it. Cheers.

https://www.microspot.ch/de/freizeit...r--p0001434866

https://www.microspot.ch/de/freizeit...gaAm6tEALw_wcB
In French

"... équipés d'un système de propulsion électrique, dont la puissance du ou des moteurs n'excède pas 0,50 kW au total, pouvant atteindre une vitesse de 20 km/h au maximum ..."

As far as I can see, it's really only the 20km/h speed limit and 500w motor that matters

Edit : So I would say they are both legal
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Old 09.10.2019, 13:26
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Re: electric scooter - rules?

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Can anyone in the know, tell me if these 2 electric scooters are road legal here? The website says they are, but I can't bring myself to 100% trust it. Cheers.

https://www.microspot.ch/de/freizeit...r--p0001434866

https://www.microspot.ch/de/freizeit...gaAm6tEALw_wcB
They don't need a special road allowance if they are limited at 20kmph max.

What you do need tho is:
- Lights front and back
- Bell (or however those ring-ring things are called in English)
- Brakes on front and back wheel (Which I think they have)
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Re: electric scooter - rules?

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They don't need a special road allowance if they are limited at 20kmph max.

What you do need tho is:
- Lights front and back
- Bell (or however those ring-ring things are called in English)
- Brakes on front and back wheel (Which I think they have)
Plus a red rear reflector with an area of at least 10 cm2
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Old 09.10.2019, 13:47
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Re: electric scooter - rules?

I've done 700km on mine since i bought it, ~10km per day..

One lesson I'd say is be careful in the wet, the grip is not good from those little solid tyres.. Road markings, drain covers etc become like ice. Mine is IP54 rated but i don't use it if the street is much more than mildly moist.

Maybe not the best time of year to be buying one.
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I've done 700km on mine since i bought it, ~10km per day..

One lesson I'd say is be careful in the wet, the grip is not good from those little solid tyres.. Road markings, drain covers etc become like ice. Mine is IP54 rated but i don't use it if the street is much more than mildly moist.

Maybe not the best time of year to be buying one.
Looking ahead for next summer!
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Re: The rule of electronic scooter in Zurich or Switzerland

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Dualtron Thunder

You are driving an unallowed 5400W electrical vehicle that can reach 80km/hr.

Forget everything that has been said about just getting a fine, this goes way beyond all those "toy" scooters you see everywhere, this is almost breaking the maximum amount of laws possible with a scooter.

Tip: If you get an accident regardless of who is at fault, offer loads of money to buy it off and keep police and insurances out of it.
I appreciate your feedback, but it seems that you don't even understand what an electronic scooter is, how come it can reach 80 km/h?
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Re: The rule of electronic scooter in Zurich or Switzerland

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I appreciate your feedback, but it seems that you don't even understand what an electronic scooter is, how come it can reach 80 km/h?
Maybe because the manual says so and because 5.4 kW is enough power to make it possible.
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I appreciate your feedback, but it seems that you don't even understand what an electronic scooter is, how come it can reach 80 km/h?
Seems that you're a troll who has no clue what picture he found on the web.
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I appreciate your feedback, but it seems that you don't even understand what an electronic scooter is, how come it can reach 80 km/h?



He refers to this:


https://electrek.co/2019/09/30/dualt...review-50-mph/


Your image shows the scooter depicted in the article.
A vehicle, I would only ride with full face helmet and full body protection.
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I appreciate your feedback, but it seems that you don't even understand what an electronic scooter is, how come it can reach 80 km/h?
Correct as far as I'm concerned, I know electric ones only.

Please explain what an electronic scooter is and how they differ from electric ones.
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Re: electric scooter - rules?

I’m so happy that someone has brought-up this topic, because the amount of electro scooters has increased significantly in past years, to the point where I don’t really feel safe even when walking to the shops anymore.

While I’m all for electro-mobility my experience has been really bad this year. With one example of young guys getting fun out of scaring the sh*t out of someone while scooting and shouting in my ear from behind, then overtaking.

I was walking within a short tunnel-like restaurant entrance, and it really, really scared me for those seconds.

I’m sick of it tbh.

What are the laws about scooting on the pavement, anyone know?
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I’m so happy that someone has brought-up this topic, because the amount of electro scooters has increased significantly in past years, to the point where I don’t really feel safe even when walking to the shops anymore.

While I’m all for electro-mobility my experience has been really bad this year. With one example of young guys getting fun out of scaring the sh*t out of someone while scooting and shouting in my ear from behind, then overtaking.

I was walking within a short tunnel-like restaurant entrance, and it really, really scared me for those seconds.

I’m sick of it tbh.
If you need a witness in future who testifies that he drove into you while in fact you just kicked him of the scooter just drop me a pm

(Taking a step to the left or right at a tactical moment also can help a lot)

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They go where bicycles go, no more, no less.
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If you need a witness in future who testifies that he drove into you while in fact you just kicked him of the scooter just drop me a pm

(Taking a step to the left or right at a tactical moment also can help a lot)
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Yes, but not when they come at you from behind, are fast and screaming in your ear just for the fun of it, and you’re within a tunnel like space around 2.5m wide. Scared the shit out of me.

Since then I’ve developed a strategy if it should happen again - involves putting my arm out while carrying a potentially hurtful object. It’s sad that this should be happening here, and sad that we should even have to think about it.
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