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[COLOR=black][FONT="Arial"]If the city or the police does not sort this problem out soon, or if they donít do anything to keep the e-scooters off the pavements, I will consider contacting my lawyer to see if I can reduce my taxes to the city by way of deductions or otherwise.
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I am a lawyer. I have been compiling a stack of video clips from the streets of Zurich where escooters drive on the pavements in order to support my case one day when I will need them.
You'll be consulting yourself then, good to know.
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Those breaking the law are probably all foreigners.

Deport the lot of them!

But hang, draw, and quarter them first.

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Why would one want to deport corpses?
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Old 15.11.2019, 20:43
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Why would one want to deport corpses?
We don't want them clogging up our graveyards.

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To all those who are making fun of me or who are being sarcastic. Watch this video. On the second 17 you will see what i am talking about..

https://youtu.be/7j9qDKRirCI
Kinda looked to me like a woman looking at her phone walking into a bike lane.. She should have looked where she was going
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Save time. Let them have both barrels.

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Sue them. And beat the hell out of them!
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What do you have against the Dutch?
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Re: electric scooter - rules?

The police of the city of Zurich informed:

2018 the police recorded 6 accident with electric sccoters.
This year so far 30, 28 with injured persons. In 27 instances the scooter rider was mainly at fault.

Since Ausgust 1st 2019 the police keeps statistics on fines issued to electric scooter riders. So far 67 riders were fined for riding on the sidewalk.

The police also collected 51 scooters out of the river Sihl and Limmat.

https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/zuerich...story/20035275

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https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/prd/de/index/gleichstellung/kontakt.html
Just out of interest: What did the equal opportunity desk of the city of Zurich think about your grievances?

(And what type of editor are you using to copy and paste your stuff? I havent seen that sort of a HTML mess since the 90s... )
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The police of the city of Zurich informed:

2018 the police recorded 6 accident with electric sccoters.
This year so far 30, 28 with injured persons. In 27 instances the scooter rider was mainly at fault.

Since Ausgust 1st 2019 the police keeps statistics on fines issued to electric scooter riders. So far 67 riders were fined for riding on the sidewalk.

The police also collected 51 scooters out of the river Sihl and Limmat.

https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/zuerich...story/20035275
I wonder how much all those rentals that did pop up everywhere are responsible for the growth in accidents and how much of those in the rivers are rentals since I see those things really laying everywhere like their just some piece of trash.
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Re: electric scooter - rules?

For any of you guys and gals out there that have an electric scooter, do any of you have or ridden the Segway ES1 (max 20km/250watt) ?

https://www.galaxus.ch/en/s3/product...anding-6816548

Galaxus has them for about 350 and seems like a pretty reasonable deal and appears to be legal as well.

I would just like to ride it around my farm.
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For any of you guys and gals out there that have an electric scooter, do any of you have or ridden the Segway ES1 (max 20km/250watt) ?

https://www.galaxus.ch/en/s3/product...anding-6816548

Galaxus has them for about 350 and seems like a pretty reasonable deal and appears to be legal as well.

I would just like to ride it around my farm.
It specifically mentions that it does not have road allowance.
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Re: electric scooter - rules?

Hay John
Per your earlier posting(http://www.swissroller.ch/swissrolle...%20gesetze.htm)
And your comment , would you say it is therefore a good idea to get one?

I will be in the countryside of Vaud, and need something with an assist since its an hour walk and I have health issues.
Its either this or an electric bike
In fact, any thoughts on the pros and cons of either?
I like the idea of being able to take the scooter with me and get a bus if I'm not feeling up to a ride. But having more space with bike packs is tempting too.

Also, according to your link Vaud doesn't require licencing or plates, so no cost there.

Any brand you favor? I'm big on whatever has the best safety rating
Thanks from a non mechanical savvy chick
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Re: electric scooter - rules?

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It specifically mentions that it does not have road allowance.
And here it say it appears to be road legal
https://www.microspot.ch/de/freizeit...r--p0001434866

Here is both approved and disapproved (in the main description)
https://www.deindeal.ch/de/home-livi...doubler-982939

Here is disapproved
https://www.digitec.ch/de/s1/product...ontent=6816548

So I take it depends on if you want to buy from a shop that says it's approved or not.

Seems the ES2 Lite is road approved on more sites, so it would be a safer bet.
https://www.digitec.ch/de/s1/product...agIds=1249-681

Don't know why regulating these isn't a priority, thought zero emissions are a priority for Switzerland.
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Hay John
Per your earlier posting(http://www.swissroller.ch/swissrolle...%20gesetze.htm)
And your comment , would you say it is therefore a good idea to get one?

I will be in the countryside of Vaud, and need something with an assist since its an hour walk and I have health issues.
Its either this or an electric bike
In fact, any thoughts on the pros and cons of either?
I like the idea of being able to take the scooter with me and get a bus if I'm not feeling up to a ride. But having more space with bike packs is tempting too.

Also, according to your link Vaud doesn't require licencing or plates, so no cost there.

Any brand you favor? I'm big on whatever has the best safety rating
Thanks from a non mechanical savvy chick
Just seeing this after long time..

The scooter is obviously much more portable than a bike but you can really carry anything with you other than a backpack.. So ideal for popping on the bus / train. . Road legal and no plates required as long as they are street legal, most retailers will specify, basically up to 20km/h and 500w or less motor.. Many others are available, faster, more power etc and the reality is that you are highly unlikely to be questioned unless you do something silly like ride on the sidewalk or crash into something .. Then you'd likely be in trouble.

I go through central Geneva daily, I do 12-15km per day, I stop at traffic lights I ride in the bike lanes and road, I've never had an issue.. And mine reaches 40km/h on the flat.

I have the eTwow brand, it's been totally reliable for nearly 2000km so far.. Bought from Tec&Way Geneve because they free service it every 500km and they can fix or replace anything in store.. No need to send it back to China.
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Re: electric scooter - rules?

I picked up a Onewheel from Tec & Way myself, hoping to use it to either augment or replace my commute by tram. I had been riding around Meyrin with it for a couple of weeks without incident, tooling down the bike lane under the mistaken belief that it was legal to do so. I was stopped a few months back by a municipal police officer and told that it was not permissible to ride it ANYWHERE except private property.



More recently, the Canton has published a table of vehicles which can be ridden in public and the restrictions under which they may do so. Somewhat frustratingly, the criteria by which they arrived at the list are absent and seem to be in disagreement with (or are merely a subset of) the federal regulations on the topic.


I'm happy to do as the law states, but it's not always easy to determine what that is and there is (sometimes at least) ambiguity about how, when, and why it is applicable.
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Re: electric scooter - rules?

I found this electric scooter at digitec.

The spec say max speed is 25km/h and they also state it is legal to use on road / bicycle paths.

Does anyone know if the rules were changed recently from max limit 20 km/h to 25 km/h?
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I found this electric scooter at digitec.

The spec say max speed is 25km/h and they also state it is legal to use on road / bicycle paths.

Does anyone know if the rules were changed recently from max limit 20 km/h to 25 km/h?
Still the same technical regulation as given in post #2 of this thread https://www.englishforum.ch/2719311-post2.html
Electrical support up to 25 km/h, and up to 20 km/h if just run on the motor alone. As it goes faster than 20 km/h and the given vehicle can not be human powered and thus give support it would need a small yellow license plate.Art. 18 Letter a. and b. VTS

You might also ask this questions, with reference to Art. 18 Letter a. and b. VTS, in the digitec forum and in addition ask this question your local SAN/StVA.
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Still the same technical regulation as given in post #2 of this thread https://www.englishforum.ch/2719311-post2.html
Electrical support up to 25 km/h, and up to 20 km/h if just run on the motor alone. As it goes faster than 20 km/h and the given vehicle can not be human powered and thus give support it would need a small yellow license plate.Art. 18 Letter a. and b. VTS

You might also ask this questions, with reference to Art. 18 Letter a. and b. VTS, in the digitec forum and in addition ask this question your local SAN/StVA.
Thank you for the excellent information.
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