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Guest 09.03.2018 15:18

Re: [Drivers licence] Conversion and questions, Mark II
 
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Originally Posted by aSwissInTheUS (Post 2920115)
:rolleyes::rolleyes:



If it is a provisional Swiss license than it is as Artax says. One gets a provision license if they passed neither car nor motorcycle test 12 months before the move to Switzerland. (and also if you do the driving license test in Switzerland).

You have a three month grace period to do the two WAB courses. To do the courses you will need special permission from the local SAN/StVA, as the license is void. One cannot fail a WAB course (unless they leave class early or behave totally inconsiderate)

If you do not do the courses within the 3 month grace period you will lose the categories and you must start from scratch. No "only needs Kontrollfahrt", start from zero.

See Art. 24b VZV https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...ndex.html#a24b

Sorry, my fault. Missed the provisional part.

st2lemans 09.03.2018 15:37

Re: [Drivers licence] Conversion and questions, Mark II
 
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Originally Posted by aSwissInTheUS (Post 2920109)
she may have to show proof that her stay in California was longer than 6 months.

Easy enough, she can just get a letter from the comune stating when she de-registered and when she re-registered.

Quote:

Originally Posted by aSwissInTheUS (Post 2920109)
But, if she had neither acquired car nor motorcycle license more than 12 months before the move she will get a provisional license. Within the validity period of the provisional license she will have to do the two WAB courses.

That's what I figured, just wanted to confirm.

Thanks,

Tom

Ary digital 10.05.2018 13:26

Looking for an information ( change of EU driving license )
 
I have Italian driving license of B C D category, when I change it to Swisss driving license .Will I have to go through some pratical exam or not.I want Swiss license with same category, thanks in advance.

zucchero 10.05.2018 13:49

Re: Looking for an information ( change of EU driving license )
 
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Originally Posted by Ary digital (Post 2944451)
I have Italian driving license of B C D category, when I change it to Swisss driving license .Will I have to go through some pratical exam or not.I want Swiss license with same category, thanks in advance.

Hello,
I have changed Italian licence 1.5 years ago - A, B, C, D, E categories. No practical exam was required. Only additional medical exam for D.

Ace1 10.05.2018 15:29

Re: Looking for an information ( change of EU driving license )
 
Whylnot just look in the thread that specifically covers this question?

http://www.englishforum.ch/transport...s-mark-ii.html

Dlougach 17.06.2018 14:43

Re: [Drivers licence] Conversion and questions, Mark II
 
I have moved out of Switzerland (to Russia) about 5 months ago. I have not exchanged my Swiss license into Russian one, because Russia does not strictly require exchanging licenses issued in other countries after relocation. I have however informed local Strassenverkehrsamt in Switzerland about the change of address.

However, according to the new edition of Article 41 of the Convention on Road Traffic:

Quote:

6. The provisions of this Article shall not require Contracting Parties:
a) ...
b) To recognize the validity of domestic permits issued to drivers whose normal residence at the time of such issue was not in the territory in which the permit was issued or who since such issue have transferred their residence to another territory.
The questions are:
1) Can I still drive in Switzerland using Swiss driver license?
2) Does anyone know if any of the countries have actually implemented clauses in their laws to require that the territory of residence should coincide with the territory where the driver license was issued?

jessicakate 22.06.2018 14:16

Re: [Drivers licence] Conversion and questions, Mark II
 
Thank you for the info! I just have a couple questions -

-Is this the form to exchange your foreign license in Vaud?
https://www.vd.ch/fileadmin/user_upl...conducteur.pdf

I got it from this website (for anyone that is in Vaud):
https://www.vd.ch/prestation-detail/...duire-etranger

-I was told by my husband's Dutch coworker that they took her foreign license away. Is that normal? In your post you said they would put a sticker on it and give it back.

Thanks!

Guest 22.06.2018 14:19

Re: [Drivers licence] Conversion and questions, Mark II
 
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Originally Posted by jessicakate (Post 2959830)
-I was told by my husband's Dutch coworker that they took her foreign license away. Is that normal? In your post you said they would put a sticker on it and give it back.

Thanks!

They send her drivers license back to the Netherlands, just like they did with mine. So yeah this is normal.

aSwissInTheUS 22.06.2018 14:34

Re: [Drivers licence] Conversion and questions, Mark II
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jessicakate (Post 2959830)
-I was told by my husband's Dutch coworker that they took her foreign license away. Is that normal? In your post you said they would put a sticker on it and give it back.

Yes that is the Canton Vaud form.

For the second question:
Quote:

Originally Posted by aSwissInTheUS (Post 2759061)
If your license is from an EU or EEA country, it will be sent back to the issuing state. Otherwise you will get it back with a removable sticker that it is no longer valid in Switzerland or you may also request that the license is destroyed/invalidated (holes punched into it).


aSwissInTheUS 22.06.2018 14:36

Re: [Drivers licence] Conversion and questions, Mark II
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dlougach (Post 2957778)
I have moved out of Switzerland (to Russia) about 5 months ago. I have not exchanged my Swiss license into Russian one, because Russia does not strictly require exchanging licenses issued in other countries after relocation. I have however informed local Strassenverkehrsamt in Switzerland about the change of address.

The questions are:
1) Can I still drive in Switzerland using Swiss driver license?
2) Does anyone know if any of the countries have actually implemented clauses in their laws to require that the territory of residence should coincide with the territory where the driver license was issued?

1) As far as I am aware it is still valid, and specially valid for driving in Switzerland.

2) Germany, but it is by proxy. They request that you are allowed to drive in your country of residence.

jessicakate 22.06.2018 16:07

Re: [Drivers licence] Conversion and questions, Mark II
 
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Originally Posted by aSwissInTheUS (Post 2959839)
Yes that is the Canton Vaud form.

For the second question:

Thank you!
I thought I read all of the FAQs, but I somehow missed where it said countries other than EU countries would come back with a sticker.

ConnorHughes 13.07.2018 05:41

Re: [Drivers licence] Conversion and questions, Mark II
 
Haven't found my situation yet on here...

I'm a dual Swiss/Canadian

I have a Canadian licence (FULL) issued to me on 05/07/2017
I started working in Switzerland on 01/09/2017... I'm pretty sure my employer registered me as a resident at that time.

I've recently left the country for 3 months back to Canada and as I understand i'm exempt from the rule where I HAVE to get a Swiss licence to drive in Switzerland... I can continue to use my Canadian licence no problem?

but....

It was recommended to transfer my drivers licence to Swiss to de-register as a Canadian resident (for tax purposes).

So my big question is

If i were to wait until 06/07/2018, would I get the full Swiss licence or the one with a expiration date?

aSwissInTheUS 13.07.2018 08:14

Re: [Drivers licence] Conversion and questions, Mark II
 
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Originally Posted by ConnorHughes (Post 2967625)
I have a Canadian licence (FULL) issued to me on 05/07/2017
I started working in Switzerland on 01/09/2017... I'm pretty sure my employer registered me as a resident at that time.

I've recently left the country for 3 months back to Canada and as I understand i'm exempt from the rule where I HAVE to get a Swiss licence to drive in Switzerland... I can continue to use my Canadian licence no problem?

[...]

If i were to wait until 06/07/2018, would I get the full Swiss licence or the one with a expiration date?

Do I understand it correctly you passed the Candian driving test 05/07/2017 and had never before any other driving license?

Your case is described in {asa guidline 1} section 342.
The one year period only resets if you had no domicile in Switzerland for at least three months.

I am pretty sure your employer did not register you as an resident. That is normally your obligation. Did you get an Attestation de domicile / Schriftenempfangsschein. Did you get the 2017 tax return documents? Did you deregister at your commune when you moved back to Canada? When was that? Did you register again and is the time between those two registration dates at least 3 months?

ConnorHughes 22.07.2018 18:17

Re: [Drivers licence] Conversion and questions, Mark II
 
Ive actually had a drivers licence since 2012 when i received my beginners licence. Then a few years later i received my second class licence which is almost a full licence just no drinking and only 3 people in the car. On 05/07/2017 I received my full licence in Canada... because Ive had licences before my full licence on 05/07/2017, would they use the 2012 issue date or the 2017 issue date?

I did not de-register from Switzerland when I left but I continued to have a residence in Canada while I was living Switzerland.

I think my employer did register me... i have 2 letters from my commune saying i was registered on 13.07.2017... Does that mean i'm now screwed because its now 9 days over the year limit?

Yes i did receive the tax return documents for 2017

aSwissInTheUS 23.07.2018 09:54

Re: [Drivers licence] Conversion and questions, Mark II
 
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Originally Posted by ConnorHughes (Post 2971159)
Does that mean i'm now screwed because its now 9 days over the year limit?

It means you are no longer allowed to drive in Switzerland with your Canadian license. If you wish to drive in Switzerland you must swap the license to a Swiss one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ConnorHughes (Post 2971159)
I did not de-register from Switzerland when I left but I continued to have a residence in Canada while I was living Switzerland.

But you also had a Swiss residence, and that is what counts if the time resets or not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ConnorHughes (Post 2971159)
Ive actually had a drivers licence since 2012 when i received my beginners licence. Then a few years later i received my second class licence which is almost a full licence just no drinking and only 3 people in the car. On 05/07/2017 I received my full licence in Canada... because Ive had licences before my full licence on 05/07/2017, would they use the 2012 issue date or the 2017 issue date?

Second class license??https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver...ence_in_Canada
Ontario G2? Honestly, w/o stating which territory or province it is just guess work. I would say the date you got the G2 license is important. If this date is more than a year before you became a Swiss residence you should get a full non-provisional license. In the worst you get a provisional one, you kind of know the drill as the Swiss provisional is a bit like the G2 ;)

Order a certified Driver confirmation letter with the needed information (date when G2 was issued):
https://www.ontario.ca/page/order-drivers-record

st2lemans 23.07.2018 10:18

Re: [Drivers licence] Conversion and questions, Mark II
 
Just get your Swiss license, problem solved. :rolleyes:

Tom

Ace1 23.07.2018 11:12

Re: [Drivers licence] Conversion and questions, Mark II
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ConnorHughes (Post 2971159)
Ive actually had a drivers licence since 2012 when i received my beginners licence. Then a few years later i received my second class licence which is almost a full licence just no drinking and only 3 people in the car. On 05/07/2017 I received my full licence in Canada... because Ive had licences before my full licence on 05/07/2017, would they use the 2012 issue date or the 2017 issue date?

They'll normally use the date you passed your test, so it would be the middle date, assuming that's recorded. Certainly not the 2012 one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ConnorHughes (Post 2971159)
I think my employer did register me... i have 2 letters from my commune saying i was registered on 13.07.2017... Does that mean i'm now screwed because its now 9 days over the year limit?

Screwed? No, you can still exchange your Canadian license for a Swiss one. But you're no longer entitled to drive in Switzerland until you do so.

tooki 07.09.2018 15:15

Re: [Drivers licence] Conversion and questions, Mark II
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 2920088)
As I am far too lazy to use the search function, I will ask:

If a Swiss person has been living in the US for four years, and acquired a US driving license 4 months before returning to live in Switzerland because they are fed up with life in California, how does it work for a) car license and b) motorcycle license?

Not a problem. Ordinary process will apply. (I'm not sure if Switzerland and the CA DMV have an agreement to send the CA license back to CA. If not, then the license will be returned with the "Not valid in Switzerland" sticker.)

In a later reply someone mentioned proof of living abroad; since she deregistered with the commune, this requirement is already fulfilled.


I got my license while in USA (in Maryland), formally studying abroad. So I remained registered in CH. When I came back here, I put in the request to convert the license, and simply used my university transcript to prove I'd been outside CH long enough. Additionally, I submitted a photocopy I had of my very first license showing my date of initial licensing; otherwise I would have either had a much later date on my CH license, or would have needed to get a driving record from Maryland.

A week or two later I got the Swiss license, and the Maryland license with the sticker.

FWIW, I've continued to renew my Maryland license, simply because it's not difficult or expensive to do (even abroad, by mail!!). This makes visits back to USA simpler, since I don't have to convince people about a foreign ID, or drag my US passport everywhere just to get booze…

CellAA 08.11.2018 09:38

Re: [Drivers licence] Conversion and questions, Mark II
 
Done yesterday the conversion all within 1h, swiss efficiency at its best.

HKCH 21.12.2018 09:18

Re: [Drivers licence] Conversion and questions, Mark II
 
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The “happy countries” are: Andorra, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Canada, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Great Britain, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Korea (Republic), Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, Morocco, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, San Marino, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Taiwan, Tunisia, USA.
Thank you for the very useful post. I wish I could say "thanks" but some posts on this forum doesn't allow it. Maybe as I only posted a little here so far (although joining several years ago).

My wifes drivers license is from Hong Kong, and it's not on the list of friendly countries.

Does that mean she can't even drive there, the first year? What if HK issues an international drivers license to her?

Since the driving culture is so different in HK and CH, she will take lessens before driving in CH, regardless of the requirements. Just curious.

I could not find any reference to the "friendly countries list" - can it really be that HK isn't included, while Taiwan and Singapore is? One must think that the Swiss authorities must have been in HK and see how most people drive :D :eek: :rolleyes: (!)


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