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Patxi 10.04.2017 17:53

Re: Summer vs. Winter Tire Wear
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maypril (Post 2770608)
Let's not go into that please... I'm just interested in wear-rate of summers vs. winters to keep it simple.

Anecdotal Evidence:

2008 VW T5 4-Motion.

I usually put the winters tires on in early-mid October and take them off in mid-May. Winter vs. Summer usage is nearly identical.

I am now on my 2nd set of Nokian winter tires and they'll probably last for another winter.

I am currently on my 3rd set of summer tires and they'll probably need to be replaced at the end of this summer. Incidentally, I am now using Nokian Line summer tires (previously had Dunlops) and the wear seems to be a bit better.

Conclusion: Winter tires wear less than summer tires.

Treverus 10.04.2017 22:05

Re: Summer vs. Winter Tire Wear
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Patxi (Post 2770613)
Conclusion: Winter tires wear less than summer tires.

Conclusion: ANY tire wears less in colder temperatures... ;)

NickGB 10.04.2017 22:19

Re: Summer vs. Winter Tire Wear
 
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Originally Posted by Treverus (Post 2770733)
Conclusion: ANY tire wears less in colder temperatures... ;)

How so? Winter = less grip, hence more movement and more wear. Technically speaking.

NickGB 10.04.2017 22:25

Re: Summer vs. Winter Tire Wear
 
Oh, and while I'm on topic, after 40K my tyres on my X5 still have plenty of life. Great! Not so fast. They have become so noisy that I took the car to BMW who said it's a common problem (Something to do with the shoulders of the tyres. I didn't really understand) only solved by replacing the tyres. The fronts are worn more than the rears, but due to the X drive system all tyres need to be replaced! (Apparently!) Quote from BMW? CHF2,200. Wowzers! Got exactly the same tyres online for CHF1,200. Pirelli P Zeros, as opposed to the Dunlops currently on there. I'll let you know how I get on.

curley 10.04.2017 22:38

Re: Summer vs. Winter Tire Wear
 
I seem to remember putting the back tires to the front and vice versa (re wear). Is that not done anymore?

Treverus 10.04.2017 22:48

Re: Summer vs. Winter Tire Wear
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by curley (Post 2770756)
I seem to remember putting the back tires to the front and vice versa (re wear). Is that not done anymore?

I have different sizes on front and rear. It would look pretty odd to do so to say the least...

NickGB 10.04.2017 22:50

Re: Summer vs. Winter Tire Wear
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Treverus (Post 2770763)
I have different sizes on front and rear. It would look pretty odd to do so to say the least...

Same here. The rears are wider (much) and lower. I guess it makes the car look like a hot rod?

curley 10.04.2017 22:55

Re: Summer vs. Winter Tire Wear
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NickGB (Post 2770766)
Same here. The rears are wider (much) and lower. I guess it makes the car look like a hot rod?

But if the same size it's still done?

PS: wider tires in the back does not look silly?:rolleyes:

Treverus 10.04.2017 22:58

Re: Summer vs. Winter Tire Wear
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NickGB (Post 2770741)
How so? Winter = less grip, hence more movement and more wear. Technically speaking.

http://i3.cpcache.com/product_zoom/5...dToSquare=true

Modern tires have of course matching harder rubber, but the principle still stays the same: Hot tarmac and rubber are not a combination for low wear. Not exactly a secret to anyone watching motorsports...

Treverus 10.04.2017 23:01

Re: Summer vs. Winter Tire Wear
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by curley (Post 2770772)
wider tires in the back does not look silly?:rolleyes:

Nope. Most of the more powerful cars are build that way... you didn't know and clearly never recognized it so far.

You need wider tires at the back cause that's where all or as in my case at least most of the power is transmitted. in the front will narrower tires make it easier to steer.

maypril 11.04.2017 08:57

Re: Summer vs. Winter Tire Wear
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Treverus (Post 2770733)
Conclusion: ANY tire wears less in colder temperatures... ;)

I agree... in this case, as to why my summer tires are wearing faster, I'll put the blame squarely on the hot tarmac, giving my driving a pass :cool:

st2lemans 11.04.2017 09:15

Re: Summer vs. Winter Tire Wear
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by curley (Post 2770772)
But if the same size it's still done?

Yes.

Tom

Don Molina 11.04.2017 14:10

Re: Summer vs. Winter Tire Wear
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Patxi (Post 2770613)
Anecdotal Evidence:

2008 VW T5 4-Motion.

I usually put the winters tires on in early-mid October and take them off in mid-May. Winter vs. Summer usage is nearly identical.

I am now on my 2nd set of Nokian winter tires and they'll probably last for another winter.

I am currently on my 3rd set of summer tires and they'll probably need to be replaced at the end of this summer. Incidentally, I am now using Nokian Line summer tires (previously had Dunlops) and the wear seems to be a bit better.

Conclusion: Winter tires wear less than summer tires.


Conclusion: YOUR winter tires wore less than YOUR summer tires, for the period YOU used them


FTFY

Patxi 11.04.2017 14:45

Re: Summer vs. Winter Tire Wear
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Molina (Post 2771023)
Conclusion: YOUR winter tires wore less than YOUR summer tires, for the period YOU used them


FTFY

:wave:

Good for you! You learned a new word today: anecdotal.

Keep up the strong work.

k_and_e 11.04.2017 15:04

Re: Summer vs. Winter Tire Wear
 
what about all-season tyres?

Treverus 11.04.2017 15:21

Re: Summer vs. Winter Tire Wear
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by k_and_e (Post 2771049)
what about all-season tyres?

Not as good as winter tires in winter or summer tires in summer. Alright for places with mild winters and temperate summers, say England or the Netherlands. If you exclusively drive a Smart within your city limits probably ok in CH as well, but I'd never use them in Swiss winters for anything more.


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