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Summer vs. Winter Tire Wear

Automotive gurus,

I need your experience and opinion on tire wear of summer vs. winter tires.

So here's what I have:
  1. Continental summers, about 11K km with 5.4mm average on all 4 tires.
  2. Nokian winters, about 17K km with 7.2mm average on all 4 tires.
Both tires if I'm not mistaken were manufactured on the same year. Obviously used in the same car and I believe driven in the same manner, well I suppose, maybe a bit more spirited in summer.


Anyway, I can't understand how my Contis are 2mm lower with less kms on it? Does the hotter tarmac in summer make it worse? Or, is it just Contis are crap vs. Nokians?
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Automotive gurus,

I need your experience and opinion on tire wear of summer vs. winter tires.

So here's what I have:
  1. Continental summers, about 11K km with 5.4mm average on all 4 tires.
  2. Nokian winters, about 17K km with 7.2mm average on all 4 tires.
Both tires if I'm not mistaken were manufactured on the same year. Obviously used in the same car and I believe driven in the same manner, well I suppose, maybe a bit more spirited in summer.


Anyway, I can't understand how my Contis are 2mm lower with less kms on it? Does the hotter tarmac in summer make it worse? Or, is it just Contis are crap vs. Nokians?
Maybe you were more "spirited" than you think you were...
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Anyway, I can't understand how my Contis are 2mm lower with less kms on it? Does the hotter tarmac in summer make it worse? Or, is it just Contis are crap vs. Nokians?
How do you know the Contis have worn more? Perhaps the winter tires started with a deeper tread depth?

Summer tires do tend to wear faster. Temperature, driving style, moisture/precipitation, all play a role.
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How do you know the Contis have worn more? Perhaps the winter tires started with a deeper tread depth?

Summer tires do tend to wear faster. Temperature, driving style, moisture/precipitation, all play a role.
I'm quite sure that the Nokian winters started at 8mm.

The Conti summers, I admit I don't know because it was on the car when bought and first measured only on the change-over. If the Contis started at 6mm, then this explains everything .

I sure understand that tire wear is due to a lot of factors. I just want to know what other experience here.
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Re: Summer vs. Winter Tire Wear

Everything above plus: even two different types of summer tyres would have different wear. C'mon, mileage is one of the properties of tyre you usually check when you are buying it.
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Re: Summer vs. Winter Tire Wear

My Nokian winters have much deeper tread than the summers to start with.

Plus really impressed with the Nokians
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My Nokian winters have much deeper tread than the summers to start with.

Plus really impressed with the Nokians
Me too - WR D3 and now D4. The life I get out of them could be better (I replace them long before they get down to the winter wear indicators) but given the price I'm not complaining
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Anyway, I can't understand how my Contis are 2mm lower with less kms on it? Does the hotter tarmac in summer make it worse? Or, is it just Contis are crap vs. Nokians?
1. Do you drive faster in summer? I do...
2. Summer tires typically start with less thread than winter tires...
3. There is more to tires than winter and summer... I had extremely different summer tires from hard "eco" tires for low gas milage and long tire durability to ultra soft toyo proxes sport tires... how much grip do you want and are you willing to pay for it?
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Anyway, I can't understand how my Contis are 2mm lower with less kms on it?
it is because they are:

- different tires
- of different types (summer/winter)
- and different brands
- driven at different times of the year
- at different speeds
- for different distances

remind me again why you would expect the wear to be the same?
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it is because they are:

- different tires
- of different types (summer/winter)
- and different brands
- driven at different times of the year
- at different speeds
- for different distances

remind me again why you would expect the wear to be the same?
If your experience is different than mine, maybe you can share... I perfectly understand its a lot of factors.
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If your experience is different than mine, maybe you can share... I perfectly understand its a lot of factors.
Sure. I think Michelin is doing something wrong, because my rear tires only last half as long as my front tires...
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Sure. I think Michelin is doing something wrong, because my rear tires only last half as long as my front tires...
Let's not go into that please... I'm just interested in wear-rate of summers vs. winters to keep it simple.
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Let's not go into that please... I'm just interested in wear-rate of summers vs. winters to keep it simple.
Anecdotal Evidence:

2008 VW T5 4-Motion.

I usually put the winters tires on in early-mid October and take them off in mid-May. Winter vs. Summer usage is nearly identical.

I am now on my 2nd set of Nokian winter tires and they'll probably last for another winter.

I am currently on my 3rd set of summer tires and they'll probably need to be replaced at the end of this summer. Incidentally, I am now using Nokian Line summer tires (previously had Dunlops) and the wear seems to be a bit better.

Conclusion: Winter tires wear less than summer tires.
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