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Aftermarket exhaust?

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Quick question for those piston heads from the forum, does anyone knows how to know if an aftermarket exhaust could be legal in Switzerland?

The reason because of this is that the car that I bought in UK, guess what? Its quite rusty, as almost 90% of Uk cars unfortunately, and I would like to change the exhaust before moving to Switzerland but the problem is that is almost imposible to find an original one since the 350z are no longer in production, but its full of aftermarket ones...

So, what can I do?



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Re: Aftermarket exhaust?

If it is approved for use in the EU, it will almost certainly be approved for use in Switzerland. You could also get hold of the certificate the manufacturer provides, photocopy it and ask the Swiss authorities if it's legal.
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If it is approved for use in the EU, it will almost certainly be approved for use in Switzerland. You could also get hold of the certificate the manufacturer provides, photocopy it and ask the Swiss authorities if it's legal.
Not quite accurate, the laws in the uk re exhausts are non existent, so just buying one in the uk means nothing, it could be something someone has knocked up in a shed. I'd take a look on some swiss sites to see what manufactures are selling exhausts for your car then find it in the UK, getting the certificate may be a pain though, I emailed the manufacturer direct and they emailed me the cert as a PDF which the MFK people accepted (which surprised me )
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Re: Aftermarket exhaust?

I rather had the impression he had bought the car in the UK and is driving it in Gibraltar, and intends importing it to Switzerland. In which case the exhaust might be his cheapest worry. Couldn't he easily buy an exhaust in Spain?
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Old 20.04.2017, 10:32
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Re: Aftermarket exhaust?

Just read his other thread

Op - don't bother, sell the car, don't import it into switzerland, importing it into spain then here is just a world of hassle and pain, and if its rusty it'll never pass the MFK

swiss 350z's start at 7k chf

http://www.autoscout24.ch/de/autos/n...st=1&vehtyp=10

given they start at around 3.5k in the uk you are not going to save anything, you'll have a lot of small and large bills that soon add up to a huge amount, and you'll have a worthless car here (no joke, a RHD car here is literally worth nothing)

the import MFK on a 2nd hand car isn't easy to pass, they will check everything. are you 100% sure everything is OEM? (most nissan boys trev them up) wheels for instance? no engine mods? etc etc

seriously, just don't do it
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Re: Aftermarket exhaust?

As I said on the other thread, any part which is non-standard needs the correct Swiss certification which your common or garden aftermarket one won't have. Any changes or mods will be picked up at the MFK and you will have to replace the parts with OEM ones (or certified aftermarket versions).

Wheels also have to be certified and in homologated sizes for your model of car, so if they're wider or bigger than the largest available factory option they'll fail too.

Feel free to ignore all the advice and try to import it anyway but I wouldn't recommend it. Also, check out the tax cost for the car in the canton where you plan to live - over 3.0 engines can be very expensive in some areas.
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Just read his other thread

Op - don't bother, sell the car, don't import it into switzerland, importing it into spain then here is just a world of hassle and pain, and if its rusty it'll never pass the MFK

swiss 350z's start at 7k chf

http://www.autoscout24.ch/de/autos/n...st=1&vehtyp=10

given they start at around 3.5k in the uk you are not going to save anything, you'll have a lot of small and large bills that soon add up to a huge amount, and you'll have a worthless car here (no joke, a RHD car here is literally worth nothing)

the import MFK on a 2nd hand car isn't easy to pass, they will check everything. are you 100% sure everything is OEM? (most nissan boys trev them up) wheels for instance? no engine mods? etc etc

seriously, just don't do it
How much time does he have to import the car after arriving here? He could just drive in with it, use it until he found a car to buy here and then .... sell it to the "export-guys" for Fr. 100.00. LOL.

OP, bigblue2 is right about MFK seriously not liking rust (and we're talking peanuts here compared to other countries). Some perfectly fine running cars of mine had to go only because of rust
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How much time does he have to import the car after arriving here? He could just drive in with it, use it until he found a car to buy here and then .... sell it to the "export-guys" for Fr. 100.00. LOL.

OP, bigblue2 is right about MFK seriously not liking rust (and we're talking peanuts here compared to other countries). Some perfectly fine running cars of mine had to go only because of rust

depends what permit you have to what you can get away with but officially iirc it's 12 months, but the car has to be legal in the country its registered in, which is kinda tricky if you don't have a home address in that country most (if not all) insurance co.'s will invalidate your insurance right away the second you leave.
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I rather had the impression he had bought the car in the UK and is driving it in Gibraltar, and intends importing it to Switzerland. In which case the exhaust might be his cheapest worry. Couldn't he easily buy an exhaust in Spain?
Yup, I drive it in Spain, since I live in Spain / Work in Gibraltar

everything here is more expensive (in Spain), thats why is cheaper from Ebay Uk

Why would be the exhaust be my cheapest worry?
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Re: Aftermarket exhaust?

Oh and another stumbling point, was the car a Jap import? is the VIN plate in english? if its a jap import and the vin plate is in Jap then you can't import it anyway.
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Just read his other thread

Op - don't bother, sell the car, don't import it into switzerland, importing it into spain then here is just a world of hassle and pain, and if its rusty it'll never pass the MFK

swiss 350z's start at 7k chf

http://www.autoscout24.ch/de/autos/n...st=1&vehtyp=10

given they start at around 3.5k in the uk you are not going to save anything, you'll have a lot of small and large bills that soon add up to a huge amount, and you'll have a worthless car here (no joke, a RHD car here is literally worth nothing)

the import MFK on a 2nd hand car isn't easy to pass, they will check everything. are you 100% sure everything is OEM? (most nissan boys trev them up) wheels for instance? no engine mods? etc etc

seriously, just don't do it
No mods everything is standard except for the radio (previous owner was an old folk )... and the rusty parts are normal below the car, but the most affected one is the exhaust, as far as I know importing the car would cost me 12% of the recipt that I got for it plus some fixed taxes
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Oh and another stumbling point, was the car a Jap import? is the VIN plate in english? if its a jap import and the vin plate is in Jap then you can't import it anyway.
Not imported, had all the documents from the dealership in Uk
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Yup, I drive it in Spain, since I live in Spain / Work in Gibraltar

everything here is more expensive (in Spain), thats why is cheaper from Ebay Uk

Why would be the exhaust be my cheapest worry?
It depends, if the car is immaculate, rust free and totally standard then you just need to pay all the fees and convert the lights (and swap to an LHD rear foglight possibly) but if there's anything worn or non-standard it's a different story. A colleague had a 5k CHF bill to get a 10 year old Golf through the MFK because it needed lots of bits which are non-tested in the UK replacing (brake consumables etc) as well as some emissions issues and an ABS warning light.

For older cars it's simply not worth importing them into CH unless they're extremely rare and valuable.
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As I said on the other thread, any part which is non-standard needs the correct Swiss certification which your common or garden aftermarket one won't have. Any changes or mods will be picked up at the MFK and you will have to replace the parts with OEM ones (or certified aftermarket versions).

Wheels also have to be certified and in homologated sizes for your model of car, so if they're wider or bigger than the largest available factory option they'll fail too.

Feel free to ignore all the advice and try to import it anyway but I wouldn't recommend it. Also, check out the tax cost for the car in the canton where you plan to live - over 3.0 engines can be very expensive in some areas.
Hi, thanks how can I check how much tax would i have to pay on the car per year on Basel?
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Yup, I drive it in Spain, since I live in Spain / Work in Gibraltar

everything here is more expensive (in Spain), thats why is cheaper from Ebay Uk

Why would be the exhaust be my cheapest worry?
ok, wheels, induction system, is it chipped, are ALL parts OEM, has it been messed with in any way shape or form? eg de-catted, stupid air filters etc

they will check all of this (ok, a chip you *may* get away with) then the bills to actually import it, vat etc, trips to the MFK, the various bits of paperwork you'll need (you do speak a local language, right?) - which all cost (of course)

you WILL end up spending more then just selling it and buying one here, which will be swiss, and more then likely have a full swiss service history (the swiss don't do anything on cars themselves)

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No mods everything is standard except for the radio (previous owner was an old folk )... and the rusty parts are normal below the car, but the most affected one is the exhaust, as far as I know importing the car would cost me 12% of the recipt that I got for it plus some fixed taxes
NO!! it will cost you 12% of the value THEY think its worth, if they think your value is too low they will look up similar spec cars (and in our case) find the most expensive currently for sale.

'normal' rust here is no rust, anywhere, this isn't the uk, the MFK people will poke and prod to find any rust.
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How much time does he have to import the car after arriving here? He could just drive in with it, use it until he found a car to buy here and then .... sell it to the "export-guys" for Fr. 100.00. LOL.

OP, bigblue2 is right about MFK seriously not liking rust (and we're talking peanuts here compared to other countries). Some perfectly fine running cars of mine had to go only because of rust
jeez... thats scary its a little bit rusty yeah, but its not thaaat bad, plus if I change the exhaust it will be much better since its the main piece that has rust...

There is any shop that take care of the rust on cars around?
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No mods everything is standard except for the radio (previous owner was an old folk )... and the rusty parts are normal below the car, but the most affected one is the exhaust, as far as I know importing the car would cost me 12% of the recipt that I got for it plus some fixed taxes
If they think the receipt is too cheap they will tax you at the expected value in CH so don't try and pull a fast one there!

Cantonal tax stuff can be found online, I'm sure there's a site covering the whole country but can't remember which one it is.

What you think is 'normal' will still fail here - they expect the car to be perfect and most Swiss cars live in garages and are immaculately maintained.
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oh and the export certificate (eu1 iirc) from the uk or spain, otherwise they will charge you the higher import tax

you have the certificate of conformity for the car too?
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jeez... thats scary its a little bit rusty yeah, but its not thaaat bad, plus if I change the exhaust it will be much better since its the main piece that has rust...

There is any shop that take care of the rust on cars around?
Yeah, there are loads, but a cheap shop here will be 100CHF per hour or more so it isn't going to be viable really. I bet you'll bring the car here, it'll fail and you'll end up re-exporting it and losing a lot of cash.
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