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Re: Tax and insurance for Tesla model 3

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Uh... huh. How many cars do you know that are with half of their purchase price 4 years and 150k km later??? If it’s anywhere close to 50k, it’s doing very well for a used car indeed, and is better than normal depreciation.

Quantify your “minimal” savings, please. Because I’m curious just what your rationale is.
It's not too bad.

It's actually a bit better than than a similar-specced E-class from 2014.
Though one could argue that the 2014 E-classes' COMAND was already a bit outdated when it came out.


That said, certain supercars do appreciate in value over time. If you don't drive them too much ;-)
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There is an etymological debate that engines are completely different to motors but have become an acceptably interchangeable word. Having used a search engine (maybe a motor as no internal combustion was used) to find varying results. For clarity I will continue to say engine for the motor in motorcars and motor for the engine in enginecycles.
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Re: Tax and insurance for Tesla model 3

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Uh... huh. How many cars do you know that are with half of their purchase price 4 years and 150k km later??? If it’s anywhere close to 50k, it’s doing very well for a used car indeed, and is better than normal depreciation.

Quantify your “minimal” savings, please. Because I’m curious just what your rationale is.
if you want to know what car is keeping its value best in the 50-70k range, it's not a Tesla, but a diesel VW*

Teslas I think are close second to the 5-year lifespan. Not sure what I could tell in the 5-10 years or the 10-15 years range, though.

My rationale is that if I want to buy a "decent enough sedan", I have plenty of options to choose from around 30k (like this 335i GT) that are going to be pretty well off 10 years' and 200t km later, even with the depreciation around 70% from the second-hand price (E500, Volvo S80, A8 4.2, etc.). They are horror to feed, but the engines are quite solid and there's plenty of donors around. Your risk of the car is about 30k in 10(-15-20) years.

I'm not sure a Sfr. 50k/150t km Model S 10 years later is gonna be anything else than an economical write-off if the battery pack says goodbye (~20-25k trade-in cost), hence your financial risk is higher (~50k).

And sure enough, it's a bit of apples to oranges, but I hope you get my idea. We already know how ICE vehicles depreciate, we have no real-life experience with the Teslas over 10 years yet.

* https://bit.ly/2Qqg9le
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Assuming the diesel VW engine does not get banned again from most places you want to visit.
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