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Old 09.05.2017, 18:06
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Speeding and other tickets from other countries being swiss resident

Hi guys!

Not a lawyer, just curious, but what happens if you get any kind of ticket from another country, living in switzerland?

I think long time ago there was someone from here that got cought in France with his Porsche, but dont remember what happen... Do you got the fine from France and also from Switzerland?


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Re: Speeding and other tickets from other countries being swiss resident

Got my first ever French speeding ticket today..

I helpfully comes with a letter giving I think 4 or 5 options to pay.. Online banking via their IBAN, some app to download, some other online thing, a French version of an orange slip to pay at a French post office. Something like that.

So plenty of options ..

Edit : You will get nothing from Switzerland, you didn't commit an offence there?
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Edit : You will get nothing from Switzerland, you didn't commit an offence there?
Depending on the offense, you may!

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Depending on the offense, you may!
While I believe in theory it may be possible for some serious (i.e. 'criminal') offences, these would be something to be dealt with by the French (or German, or whatever) authorities and Swiss cooperation would then only be needed if you didn't attend a required court hearing, for instance.

For more mundane issues, e.g. for a speeding ticket via radar, it's only if you were to fail to pay the French fine that Swiss authorities would be involved. Bear in mind that any actual police stop won't let you go until you've paid up, so there's normally no further action required.
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The noose is tightening, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffi...ns_reciprocity
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Re: Speeding and other tickets from other countries being swiss resident

So, if you are driving in italy and you were going lets say, 150 in a 120 zone, you are not going to be as "raped" as in Switzerland?

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Re: Speeding and other tickets from other countries being swiss resident


We are in the UK 3 times a year - and like everybody else exceed the speed limit and have been Gatso'd often, yet to date nothing, ignore the Congestion charge to date nothing, ignore the Dartford crossing toll - to date nothing

BUT.... some ch friends of ours came to visit last summer and used the Dartford crossing and ignored the toll 16 weeks later they received a letter here in perfect german asking them to pay the toll 2.50 or face a FPN of 70.00 - it cost them more to pay the toll via banking than the toll cost and certainly cost the Dartford crossing authority more than 2.50 to find the driver, translate and post the recorded delivery letter - Crazy.

The only reason I think that we have avoided fines etc to date is that either the front CH number plate is too small for UK cameras , the front plate is in the wrong place for UK cameras, the rear plate is always filthy or we are driving so fast that the picture is blurred which is very unlikely in a chip tuned landcover defender. All of that said we will attempt to exercise restraint in future.........

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Re: Speeding and other tickets from other countries being swiss resident

Don't talk top me about that Dart charge. I forgot to pay that 2.50 charge on Friday and this will now cost me 105 once the car hire company have had their fun.

And that charging scheme actually loses money.
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So, if you are driving in italy and you were going lets say, 150 in a 120 zone, you are not going to be as "raped" as in Switzerland?
Actually, I've paid higher fines in Italy than here.

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Re: Speeding and other tickets from other countries being swiss resident

I once got a ticket for following too closely just over the border in Austria. It came with a lovely picture of the violation and a fine for 110 euros.
They sent the ticket to the car dealership in Germany, which leases our company's cars. They then sent the ticket to our Germany headquarters, who
in turn sent it to me. By the time it arrived here, I contacted the Austrian Police who said there was another 20 euro late penalty as it took two months to get to me. I paid the fine and all was well. I would have lost my license had it happened here I'm guessing.

Some years ago, after searching fruitlessly for parking near the Duomo in Turino Italy, I decided to park illegally on a side street. Upon returning to the car, which naturally had already been ticketed, I gladly took the ticket to the police station and paid the fine, which wound up costing 17 euros. It was loads cheaper than paid parking options! (In hindsight, I believe they could have also towed and / or put a boot on the car. I'm glad they didn't).


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Actually, I've paid higher fines in Italy than here.

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Jeez Tom! More than in Switzerland? I tough Italians would be more friendly and tolerant... hahaha
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I once got a ticket for following too closely just over the border in Austria. It came with a lovely picture of the violation and a fine for 110 euros.
They sent the ticket to the car dealership in Germany, which leases our company's cars. They then sent the ticket to our Germany headquarters, who
in turn sent it to me. By the time it arrived here, I contacted the Austrian Police who said there was another 20 euro late penalty as it took two months to get to me. I paid the fine and all was well. I would have lost my license had it happened here I'm guessing.

Some years ago, after searching fruitlessly for parking near the Duomo in Turino Italy, I decided to park illegally on a side street. Upon returning to the car, which naturally had already been ticketed, I gladly took the ticket to the police station and paid the fine, which wound up costing 17 euros. It was loads cheaper than paid parking options! (In hindsight, I believe they could have also towed and / or put a boot on the car. I'm glad they didn't).


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Here in Spain they do similar thing, they put you the ticket, and if you pay it in less than 1 month, you only pay half... Thing is, Correos here are terrible and you most of the times end up paying more the ticket because of the letter arriving too late... And we are talking about the same country hahaha

Good thing is, that there is a website to subscribe and you will get an email as soon as you get a ticket, so you can pay it even before getting the letter , I dont know if there exist such thing, but its super helpful
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There are treaties with France which makes fines from one state enforceable in the other state. Especially they will help each other with finding the keeper and driver of the car. There are special provisions for fines which are larger than € 70. Be aware that a French 3rd class fine (for ex speeding less than 20 km/h over) which is initially €45 increases to € 68 and € 180 when not paid within 15 and 45 days respectively.
https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...678/index.html
https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...670/index.html

There is also a treaties with Germany. But some of the treaties clauses are not in force yet.
https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...927/index.html
https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...211/index.html
on the other hand German traffic fines are more a nuisance than a deterrence
https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/b...13/anlage.html

There may be also treaties with Italy. But they have anyway a more effective and simple approach. They will impound the vehicle you have with you when they have the chance. If you intend to go back better pay their fines. Be aware they may also do this when caught in the act.

Btw. the UK and Switzerland share one thing in common. Their license plate to not incorporate an national distinguish sign according various international treaties. Which means you will have to put a CH sticker on your Swiss pleated car when you drive aboard. The Italians are known to be sticklers on this topic. Fines up to €335 have been reported in the past http://www.20min.ch/schweiz/news/sto...leber-30205033. Did I already tell you about the German fines? Same thing there costs €15 (BKatV No. 185c), in Austria €25 http://www.watson.ch/Schweiz/Auto/64...t-der-EU-nicht.
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Uk plates do now comply with international treaties until Brexit

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They will impound the vehicle you have with you when they have the chance. If you intend to go back better pay their fines. Be aware they may also do this when caught in the act.
But this would happen if you commit a very serious infraction, I guess they wont do it if you got caught driving 150 on a 120 zone...
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But this would happen if you commit a very serious infraction, I guess they wont do it if you got caught driving 150 on a 120 zone...
At least until you paid the fine as it is in the range of 159 € to 639 €
http://www.poliziadistato.it/articolo/174/

Reversing on the Autostrada, like because you drove into the wrong toll both where you can not pay cash? Super bad idea, 3 month of immediate impounding. Even if it is a rental car. https://www.ots.at/presseaussendung/...-beschlagnahmt

Riding on a big Swiss electric bike along Lago Maggiore to the Market in Luino with a bicylce helmet? Bad idea, you need an apporved motorcycle helmet. Fine of € 130 plus bike gets impounded for two months!
https://www.srf.ch/sendungen/kassens...chweizer-velos

(Sorry, the links are in Italian and German. )
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Some years ago, after searching fruitlessly for parking near the Duomo in Turino Italy, I decided to park illegally on a side street. Upon returning to the car, which naturally had already been ticketed
You should have asked aresid to help you to fight against this violation of your human rights!!
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There are treaties with France which makes fines from one state enforceable in the other state.
I seem to remember some Catch 22 with this. Something like, the full fine goes to the fine'ing country so the other country has all the cost but no return, which led to lack of actual support.
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But this would happen if you commit a very serious infraction, I guess they wont do it if you got caught driving 150 on a 120 zone...
No, but AFAIK they can ask you to pay the fine on the spot or impound the vehicle (if foreign licensed) until the fine is paid.
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they can ask you to pay the fine on the spot or impound the vehicle (if foreign licensed) until the fine is paid.
Yes, this has been my experiences.

Fortunately, being Swiss, I always carry enough cash for such eventualities.

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