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Driving License conversion problem

Hey guys, I have this little big problem with my driving license conversion, and I thought maybe someone knows something to help me out.

So the problem I have is that i tried to change my driving license that I got in my own country for the swiss one, but apparently you need to get your driving licence 12 months before entering switzerland and before getting your residence (something that I havent seen anywhere on the Ch website). I thought in a foolish way that it would be fine to do my license in my own country during the summer vacation after 2 years of living in Switzerland and afterwards converting it to the Swiss one(thinking it would be easier with the language and what not).

But now after sending them all the documents and forms that i filled and including the original driving licence, they decided to keep the original license and making me do the whole driving school once again but in Switzerland.

My question is, has it happened to someone else as well?. And if yes, do I have to redo the Swiss driving school again or just the tests (theoretical and practical).

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Hey guys, I have this little big problem with my driving license conversion, and I thought maybe someone knows something to help me out.

So the problem I have is that i tried to change my driving license that I got in my own country for the swiss one, but apparently you need to get your driving licence 12 months before entering switzerland and before getting your residence (something that I havent seen anywhere on the Ch website). I thought in a foolish way that it would be fine to do my license in my own country during the summer vacation after 2 years of living in Switzerland and afterwards converting it to the Swiss one(thinking it would be easier with the language and what not).

But now after sending them all the documents and forms that i filled and including the original driving licence, they decided to keep the original license and making me do the whole driving school once again but in Switzerland.

My question is, has it happened to someone else as well?. And if yes, do I have to redo the Swiss driving school again or just the tests (theoretical and practical).

Thank you
Yes, that is normal and yes, the driving licence done during the summer holidays is not valid here.
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Yes, that is normal and yes, the driving licence done during the summer holidays is not valid here.
Thank you for the fast reply,
One more question if its ok. Is it possible to do the exams without doing the whole driving school? Since in most European countries it is kind of mandatory.

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Old 13.05.2017, 22:07
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Re: Driving License conversion problem

No idea, sorry.

It is in a lot of countries that you cannot just pop over to your home country, get your driving licence and convert it.
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Thank you for the fast reply,
One more question if its ok. Is it possible to do the exams without doing the whole driving school? Since in most European countries it is kind of mandatory.

Thank you
You'll have to do the lot, including your First Aid Certificate, etc.

About thirty years ago I'd started taking lessons with a view to exchanging my newly acquired UK licence for a swiss one, but they changed the rules before I'd finished. It's not a new rule by any means.

PS; Part of the problem was apparently people from countries such as India buying licences back in their home countries for a few hundred francs without having a clue how to drive, and then simply swapping it for a swiss one.

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Re: Driving License conversion problem

What a bummer, but at least I will get up to date with the swiss rules and what not.
Thank you for the info
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So the problem I have is that i tried to change my driving license that I got in my own country for the swiss one, but apparently you need to get your driving licence 12 months before entering switzerland and before getting your residence (something that I havent seen anywhere on the Ch website). I thought in a foolish way that it would be fine to do my license in my own country during the summer vacation after 2 years of living in Switzerland and afterwards converting it to the Swiss one(thinking it would be easier with the language and what not).

My question is, has it happened to someone else as well?. And if yes, do I have to redo the Swiss driving school again or just the tests (theoretical and practical).
You don not need to have your license for more than 12 months before registering as a residence. But, you would only get a provisional one valid for two years. In this two years you must two driving courses, have no major traffic infractions, and a BAC of max 0.01%.

Any driving license from aboard while beeing a Swiss resident can not be converted into a Swiss one.

What do you have do to:

Do the first aid course (Nothelferkurs).
Get the application form from your locals SAN/StVA website: http://www.strassenverkehrsaemter.ch
Get a nice photo of you
Get an sight test at an optometrists/optician (Cost CHF 10 to 20. )
Bring form and proof of first aid course to SAN/StVA or commone office.
Learn for the theory exam http://asa.ch/dienstleistungen/Theoriefragen/
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Pass the theory exam.
Do the road awarness course.
Pass the practical exam (no lessons needed).

If you hurryup it can be done in less than a month.

Done. You will get a provisonal license valid for the next three years. During that period you must two driving courses, have no major traffic infractions, and a BAC of max 0.01%.
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You don not need to have your license for more than 12 months before registering as a residence. But, you would only get a provisional one valid for two years. In this two years you must two driving courses, have no major traffic infractions, and a BAC of max 0.01%.

Any driving license from aboard while beeing a Swiss resident can not be converted into a Swiss one.

What do you have do to:

Do the first aid course (Nothelferkurs).
Get the application form from your locals SAN/StVA website: http://www.strassenverkehrsaemter.ch
Get a nice photo of you
Get an sight test at an optometrists/optician (Cost CHF 10 to 20. )
Bring form and proof of first aid course to SAN/StVA or commone office.
Learn for the theory exam http://asa.ch/dienstleistungen/Theoriefragen/
Take
Pass the theory exam.
Do the road awarness course.
Pass the practical exam (no lessons needed).

If you hurryup it can be done in less than a month.

Done. You will get a provisonal license valid for the next three years. During that period you must two driving courses, have no major traffic infractions, and a BAC of max 0.01%.
Thank you very much for the information, you have been very helpful.
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Re: Driving License conversion problem

Out of interest, which country is 'back home'?

Things will of course change for British people post Brexit- and they will probably have to re-take driving licence all over- just as I did in 1970. I did 3 driving licences in just over a year, Swiss car, Swiss motorcycle, the UK car licence - as it was not possible to convert in those pre-EU days.$

Perhaps few here remember the pre-EU days, visas, work permit and job to be found before entering the country, etc, etc,
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Re: Driving License conversion problem

Did you spend more than three months of holidays when you've obtained your driving licence in your home country? If so, your driving licence could still be converted (at least in Fribourg): http://www.ocn.ch/files/pdf69/2014-1...mbre_20141.pdf

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Did you spend more than three months of holidays when you've obtained your driving licence in your home country? If so, your driving licence could still be converted (at least in Fribourg): http://www.ocn.ch/files/pdf69/2014-1...mbre_20141.pdf

"La compétence éludée devient caduque si le titulaire du permis prouve qu’il était domicilié pendant au moins trois mois, au moment de la délivrance, dans son Etat d’origine."
Not if OP was still registered here, the magic word is domicilie
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Only weird thing is that they kept my license and if i want to drive outside Switzerland, I have to send them a form in which I specify how long I'll be away for, so I can send it back o them once back from the trip. And from what i understood, its quite a long process

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Only weird thing is that they kept my license and if i want to drive outside Switzerland, I have to send them a form in which I specify how long I'll be away for, so I can send it back o them once back from the trip. And from what i understood, its quite a long process
That's the law: Art. 42 Abs. 4 and Art. 45 VZV
https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...247/index.html
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That's the law: Art. 42 Abs. 4 and Art. 45 VZV
https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...247/index.html
Wow, thank you so much for the info. I've been searching for that the whole day
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Wow, thank you so much for the info. I've been searching for that the whole day
It is also in this thread:
https://www.englishforum.ch/transpor...s-mark-ii.html

Thanks to your input I made it even beter.
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Yes the Swiss take away your driving licence when you ask to get the Swiss equivalent. I have always thought this questionable to say the least. This is all part of the permanent control the Swiss Govt wants to have on everything and everybody. Think of the Swiss authorities as very sick control freaks. Of course, money plays a role, everything that puts money in to the coffers of the Swiss economy is a good thing and there is a whole industry around what should be a right but is now the privilege of having your own transportation.

My advice is to forget about getting a driving licence in Switzerland if you are a student, as a student chances are you can perfectly do without it if that's a car that you have in mind. Also maybe you can find a workaround if you can get a moped licence in your own country ?
I can understand why the authorities are the way they are, and even if its a small inconvenience, I'm fine with just doing things by the book (even if sometimes they seem a little odd).

The only reason I even wanted to change the licence was that I will be here for quite some time (never ending school) and since I own a car it would have been nice to do a little bit of Italian shopping
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Things will of course change for British people post Brexit- and they will probably have to re-take driving licence all over- just as I did in 1970.
Err no, they won't. Agreements about recognising licences are completely independent of the EU, so Brexit, Frexit, or EUdisintegration would have no effect on this whatsoever.
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Re: Driving License conversion problem

As far as I know, if you have an EU drivers license should be a straight swap... but reading here, it looks like you need to had it for more than 1 year
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Re: Driving License conversion problem

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Out of interest, which country is 'back home'?

Things will of course change for British people post Brexit- and they will probably have to re-take driving licence all over- just as I did in 1970. I did 3 driving licences in just over a year, Swiss car, Swiss motorcycle, the UK car licence - as it was not possible to convert in those pre-EU days.$

Perhaps few here remember the pre-EU days, visas, work permit and job to be found before entering the country, etc, etc,
what nonsense again. driving license conversion rules are not exclusively for EU countries.
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