Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Help & tips > Transportation/driving  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 16.05.2017, 16:27
Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Lausanne
Posts: 4
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
looper has no particular reputation at present
Speeding ticket not paid - What now?

Hey Guys,
a very quick question regarding a speeding ticket i received while i was out of Switzerland.
As i check today I am out of the 30 days payment, should I pay the ticket or wait for a reminder?

I tried to call the cantonal police, but they told me the case is in the hands of another office now ( a judge? )
I am trying to call also this office without results...

What happens now?!?
Anyone already experienced something similar and can help me?
Thanks
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 16.05.2017, 16:44
aSwissInTheUS's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Zurich area
Posts: 12,226
Groaned at 93 Times in 84 Posts
Thanked 18,672 Times in 8,281 Posts
aSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Speeding ticket not paid - What now?

There will be no reminder!

Not paying is the very same as contesting. It will go to a judge, or to be more correct to a person with the power to issue criminal citation called Statthalter.

This is very bad as: The Statthalter is not bound by the fines given in the "official price list" https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...142/index.html, it will cost you good money in court fee, the ticket will be recorded in your driving record (only use in case of future incidents, not for insurance purposes), and you may get a warning letter at a later point from the driving license authority.

A warning letter is also bad. It cost you money and additionally you will be on probation for the next two years. Means in case an other traffic mater will go to a judge you will get at least a 1 month ban.

If it is just one or two days just go and pay and hope for the best. If it is more and you could not pay as you were out of country during the time you received the letter until you had to pay it you have to ask for a Fristwiederherstellung. As said this is only possible if you have never been at home during the time you got the letter until it must have been paid. If you got the letter before you went to holiday than it is a case of Selberschuld.
__________________
"Okay, I just hope we don't wake up on Mars or something surrounded by millions of little squashy guys."
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank aSwissInTheUS for this useful post:
  #3  
Old 16.05.2017, 16:48
Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Lausanne
Posts: 4
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
looper has no particular reputation at present
Re: Speeding ticket not paid - What now?

Quote:
View Post
There will be no reminder!

Not paying is the very same as contesting. It will go to a judge, or to be more correct to a person with the power to issue criminal citation called Statthalter.

This is very bad as: The Statthalter is not bound by the fines given in the "official price list" https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...142/index.html, it will cost you good money in court fee, the ticket will be recorded in your driving record (only use in case of future incidents, not for insurance purposes), and you may get a warning letter at a later point from the driving license authority.

A warning letter is also bad. It cost you money and additionally you will be on probation for the next two years. Means in case an other traffic mater will go to a judge you will get at least a 1 month ban.

If it is just one or two days just go and pay and hope for the best. If it is more and you could not pay as you were out of country during the time you received the letter until you had to pay it you have to ask for a Fristwiederherstellung. As said this is only possible if you have never been at home during the time you got the letter until it must have been paid. If you got the letter before you went to holiday than it is a case of Selberschuld.

Really??!!?!?
the bill expired around two weeks ago, but i was not here in Switzerland.
Just checked yesterday while checking my post.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 16.05.2017, 17:00
aSwissInTheUS's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Zurich area
Posts: 12,226
Groaned at 93 Times in 84 Posts
Thanked 18,672 Times in 8,281 Posts
aSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Speeding ticket not paid - What now?

Quote:
View Post
Really??!!?!?
the bill expired around two weeks ago, but i was not here in Switzerland.
Just checked yesterday while checking my post.
If you were out of country the whole time go the route of Fristwiderherstellung. You will need to proof it with tickets, hotel receipts etc.

Legal base is Art. 94 Criminal Procedure Code
https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classifi...index.html#a94

How to do it? I do not know. But there is a time limit as well. Do not miss that one as well.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank aSwissInTheUS for this useful post:
  #5  
Old 16.05.2017, 17:39
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Ostschweiz
Posts: 8,032
Groaned at 348 Times in 282 Posts
Thanked 10,388 Times in 5,490 Posts
Urs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Speeding ticket not paid - What now?

Your request for Fristerstreckung will probably be handled by the Verwaltungsgericht, 3. Abteilung.

Personally I'd have paid the very first thing this morning (preferably by Post, requesting the clerk to make the stamp readable) and called the Statthalter immediately after. You're probably too late but still, nobody is interested in creating unnecessary workload, be that for oneself or another government branch so they may let you off the hook directly if very(!) lucky.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Urs Max for this useful post:
  #6  
Old 16.05.2017, 18:28
Ace1's Avatar
A modal singularity
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Morgins, VS (and Alsace)
Posts: 8,477
Groaned at 346 Times in 221 Posts
Thanked 14,160 Times in 6,207 Posts
Ace1 has a reputation beyond reputeAce1 has a reputation beyond reputeAce1 has a reputation beyond reputeAce1 has a reputation beyond reputeAce1 has a reputation beyond reputeAce1 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Speeding ticket not paid - What now?

Quote:
View Post
Hey Guys,
a very quick question regarding a speeding ticket i received while i was out of Switzerland.
As i check today I am out of the 30 days payment, should I pay the ticket or wait for a reminder?

I tried to call the cantonal police, but they told me the case is in the hands of another office now ( a judge? )
I am trying to call also this office without results...

What happens now?!?
Anyone already experienced something similar and can help me?
Thanks
Yeah, I've been there more than once. Just pay it now - if you get a reminder they'll add on 20 francs for an admin fee, but if you pay it before the reminder is sent you may get lucky.

Dunno why the others are being so alarmist - this is a very common situation and has no negative impact apart from the increased fine.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Ace1 for this useful post:
  #7  
Old 16.05.2017, 18:49
Newbie
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Lausanne
Posts: 4
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
looper has no particular reputation at present
Re: Speeding ticket not paid - What now?

So, finally I reached via phone someone from that office, don't recall the name since its in german.
What he told me is to wait until i receive the notification and then write them a letter explaining why I did not pay the ticket.
To be honest I was a bit scared today morning and I paid it very quickly via internet.

To clarify it, this is a traffic light ticket (0.5 seconds since red...and I am sure i was stucked in the traffic, so F**k zurich wiedikon traffic lights...)

I hope this is not gonna involve offices and judges.
I dont want to end in 3000CHF payments for a ticket I didn't even had the chance to read.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 16.05.2017, 18:58
curley's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: canton ZH
Posts: 11,454
Groaned at 183 Times in 151 Posts
Thanked 12,864 Times in 6,726 Posts
curley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Speeding ticket not paid - What now?

Quote:
View Post
So, finally I reached via phone someone from that office, don't recall the name since its in german.
What he told me is to wait until i receive the notification and then write them a letter explaining why I did not pay the ticket.
To be honest I was a bit scared today morning and I paid it very quickly via internet.

To clarify it, this is a traffic light ticket (0.5 seconds since red...and I am sure i was stucked in the traffic, so F**k zurich wiedikon traffic lights...)

I hope this is not gonna involve offices and judges.
I dont want to end in 3000CHF payments for a ticket I didn't even had the chance to read.
Not paying now - based on a phone call with someone you did not even write the name down - is not a good idea as you clearly owe that fine. So I don't really know why you should wait paying it .... if there's additional cost it will come but at least you did not stall the original fine any longer than the absence you want to claim.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 16.05.2017, 18:59
Ace1's Avatar
A modal singularity
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Morgins, VS (and Alsace)
Posts: 8,477
Groaned at 346 Times in 221 Posts
Thanked 14,160 Times in 6,207 Posts
Ace1 has a reputation beyond reputeAce1 has a reputation beyond reputeAce1 has a reputation beyond reputeAce1 has a reputation beyond reputeAce1 has a reputation beyond reputeAce1 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Speeding ticket not paid - What now?

Quote:
View Post
To clarify it, this is a traffic light ticket (0.5 seconds since red...and I am sure i was stucked in the traffic, so F**k zurich wiedikon traffic lights...)
Ahh. Well I don't know if this is dealt with in as simple a way as my experiences, which were always minor speeding fines (i.e. <20kph over the limit) which are just fixed penalties.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 16.05.2017, 19:25
eejit's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Zurich
Posts: 169
Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post
Thanked 68 Times in 48 Posts
eejit has made some interesting contributions
Re: Speeding ticket not paid - What now?

Quote:
View Post
Not paying now - based on a phone call with someone you did not even write the name down - is not a good idea as you clearly owe that fine. So I don't really know why you should wait paying it ....
I think you misread. OP has paid and is now waiting for the notification for the chance to start explaining.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank eejit for this useful post:
  #11  
Old 16.05.2017, 19:28
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Formerly in Neuchatel
Posts: 2,923
Groaned at 222 Times in 151 Posts
Thanked 5,400 Times in 2,046 Posts
porsch1909 has a reputation beyond reputeporsch1909 has a reputation beyond reputeporsch1909 has a reputation beyond reputeporsch1909 has a reputation beyond reputeporsch1909 has a reputation beyond reputeporsch1909 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Speeding ticket not paid - What now?

When I forgot to pay a speeding ticket in Zurich I paid straight away. A week or so later I got an 'acte judicial' in the post. It was for the speeding fine + a court or judge fee (40 + 80chf fee)

I phoned them and said I've already paid it albeit late. They recommended I pay the 120chf and will get the 40chf back some time in the future. I got a cheque (cashed at Post office) for 40chf a couple of months later. I Think there was an admin fee to cash it.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 16.05.2017, 23:08
3Wishes's Avatar
Moderately Amused
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Bern area
Posts: 10,670
Groaned at 77 Times in 74 Posts
Thanked 17,680 Times in 7,940 Posts
3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Speeding ticket not paid - What now?

Quote:
View Post
...To clarify it, this is a traffic light ticket (0.5 seconds since red...
So why did you title the thread speeding ticket?

Anywho, for red light fun, see mirfield's thread: Red Light Jumping - 10 Day Frist
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 16.05.2017, 23:35
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Zurich
Posts: 4,757
Groaned at 236 Times in 139 Posts
Thanked 5,312 Times in 2,431 Posts
ZuriRollt has a reputation beyond reputeZuriRollt has a reputation beyond reputeZuriRollt has a reputation beyond reputeZuriRollt has a reputation beyond reputeZuriRollt has a reputation beyond reputeZuriRollt has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Speeding ticket not paid - What now?

Quote:
View Post
So, finally I reached via phone someone from that office, don't recall the name since its in german.
What he told me is to wait until i receive the notification and then write them a letter explaining why I did not pay the ticket.
To be honest I was a bit scared today morning and I paid it very quickly via internet.

To clarify it, this is a traffic light ticket (0.5 seconds since red...and I am sure i was stucked in the traffic, so F**k zurich wiedikon traffic lights...)

I hope this is not gonna involve offices and judges.
I dont want to end in 3000CHF payments for a ticket I didn't even had the chance to read.
You wrote it in English . Hopefully they won't seize your car
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 16.05.2017, 23:35
xynth's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Zurich
Posts: 823
Groaned at 35 Times in 22 Posts
Thanked 1,956 Times in 565 Posts
xynth has a reputation beyond reputexynth has a reputation beyond reputexynth has a reputation beyond reputexynth has a reputation beyond reputexynth has a reputation beyond reputexynth has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Speeding ticket not paid - What now?

Quote:
View Post
When I forgot to pay a speeding ticket in Zurich I paid straight away. A week or so later I got an 'acte judicial' in the post. It was for the speeding fine + a court or judge fee (40 + 80chf fee)

I phoned them and said I've already paid it albeit late. They recommended I pay the 120chf and will get the 40chf back some time in the future. I got a cheque (cashed at Post office) for 40chf a couple of months later. I Think there was an admin fee to cash it.
I've been tardy in the past with tickets sometimes and had the same experience as you. OP, if the ticket in question was just an administrative offence (which it was by the sounds of it), don't worry at all. There will be an extra court fee, but it won't be particularly extreme (something along the lines of 80-120 CHF). Chalk it up to experience and take care next time.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 16.05.2017, 23:41
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Zurich
Posts: 4,757
Groaned at 236 Times in 139 Posts
Thanked 5,312 Times in 2,431 Posts
ZuriRollt has a reputation beyond reputeZuriRollt has a reputation beyond reputeZuriRollt has a reputation beyond reputeZuriRollt has a reputation beyond reputeZuriRollt has a reputation beyond reputeZuriRollt has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Speeding ticket not paid - What now?

Quote:
View Post
Your request for Fristerstreckung will probably be handled by the Verwaltungsgericht, 3. Abteilung.

Personally I'd have paid the very first thing this morning (preferably by Post, requesting the clerk to make the stamp readable) and called the Statthalter immediately after. You're probably too late but still, nobody is interested in creating unnecessary workload, be that for oneself or another government branch so they may let you off the hook directly if very(!) lucky.
Or, let's face-it:

Attachment 125413

Last edited by ZuriRollt; 09.12.2017 at 14:23.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank ZuriRollt for this useful post:
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
My first speeding ticket... I'm sure not my last Arbitrage-baby Daily life 8 07.05.2014 11:00
Speeding ticket for over-speeding by 1 kph !!!!!!!! Irene N Complaints corner 173 06.11.2013 15:47
Speeding Ticket in Ticino.. What am I looking at :-( 2donkeysineurope Transportation/driving 28 02.06.2013 11:14
Not enough time to contest speeding ticket justarandomguy02 Transportation/driving 12 02.10.2012 17:08
290 kmh... now that's what I call speeding. Treverus International affairs/politics 85 18.08.2010 17:32


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 11:29.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0