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European "test technique" equivalence to MFK (on old Land Rover 110)?

I'm thinking of buying a 9+ seater Land Rover, which seem to be as rare as hen's teeth in CH, so have been looking in other countries. Quite a few come up, and at much lower prices, but I'm just a bit concerned about possible MFK issues on some of them.

As an example here's one in Northern Germany, with a new (TUV?) test. In this case I'd be fairly happy about it getting through the MFK, but on some of the older ones, e.g. this one with a new Spanish 'ITV' text, I'd be more concerned.

So how comparable are the tests? Is it reasonable to assume that a recent pass in an EU country would get through the MFK without major issues? Not talking about silly things like dirty engines and whatnot, but chassis rot in particular can be an issue with older Landies, I gather.

While I'm here, anyone got anything to add about these? Never much looked at them myself up until now, so anything that might be useful?
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Old 30.06.2017, 11:01
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Re: European "test technique" equivalence to MFK (on old Land Rover 110)?

Guy in my office has one (newer model tho) - swears that it's the most unreliable car in human history. However I have my doubts and having been a big fan of British cars and engines since my childhood think that as long as you're prepared to do some maintenance yourself and know your way around an engine they should be fine.
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So how comparable are the tests? Is it reasonable to assume that a recent pass in an EU country would get through the MFK without major issues? Not talking about silly things like dirty engines and whatnot, but chassis rot in particular can be an issue with older Landies, I gather.

While I'm here, anyone got anything to add about these? Never much looked at them myself up until now, so anything that might be useful?
The TÜV is fairly rigorous. I've seen a couple of classic cars which passed TÜV with what I regard as serious safety faults, the CH inspector was of the same opinion, and the cars needed rectification work to pass MFK.

I've seen absolute death traps pass the UK MOT, thanks to "Drive by" MOTs.

At the end of the day, you have to know the car relatively well to spot non original modifications, and the weak spots of that model. But that is the case here too. Even an MFK from the most anal inspector says nothing more than "On this day, the safety systems worked as expected, the emissions were within original spec, and there were no visible rust holes, damage, questionable modifications, or bits that appeared to be just about ready to fall off. The car was cleaned well enough that I would only be able to spot major, consistent leaks, and the speedometer is calibrated in kmh and is reasonably accurate."

About the only information that any MFK will provide you with is that it isn't a complete shed (i.e. it ran well enough to make it to at least a drive by MOT), and what the emissions are (if that information is provided in the MOT/MFK/TÜV).
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Guy in my office has one (newer model tho) - swears that it's the most unreliable car in human history. However I have my doubts and having been a big fan of British cars and engines since my childhood think that as long as you're prepared to do some maintenance yourself and know your way around an engine they should be fine.
Yeah, apparently the all-new (in 1998) Td5 engine was treated with caution at first, and the army stuck with the older petrol engines for a while, but they've since been shown to lay very well. I'm still a bit cautious about the 332000km on the first one I linked to, though, and I think the engine is the main area where home mechanicing may not be enough.

I guess your friend's is the later (current) 4 cyl 2.2 tdi? What problems has he had with it?
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