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CH sticker on back of car

So I did a bit of driving through Switzerland, France, Italy.
I only noticed Switzerland have the Oval CH sticker on the bumper. I did not see France F or Italy I. As a kid I alway's heard that everyone had these on their car? Any reason why I didn't see any cars have this? is it because the EU plates represent the country?

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Re: CH sticker on back of car

Italy loves to fine CH cars on very shacky grounds if you dont have a CH sticker.. Carabinieri at their very best
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Italy loves to fine CH cars on very shacky grounds if you dont have a CH sticker.. Carabinieri at their very best
Slovenia, Croatia, France as well.
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Re: CH sticker on back of car

Maybe they have never taken their cars out of their home country? Unlikely though I suppose.


This reminds me, when we were little, my sister and I thought that the GB on our car meant "Going aBroad".
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Re: CH sticker on back of car

You should also only use the large CH sticker on your car

https://en.comparis.ch/autoversicher...ch-kleber-auto
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France as well.
Allegedly. Perhaps certain areas or customs posts may occasionally crank down on this, but I've never heard of it among the Basel people I know, and we've been crossing pretty much daily, on and off te motorway crossing, for the last 15 years without said stickers. Also used Geneva crossings quite a number of times. And is never been mentioned. Not once.
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So I did a bit of driving through Switzerland, France, Italy.
I only noticed Switzerland have the Oval CH sticker on the bumper. I did not see France F or Italy I. As a kid I alway's heard that everyone had these on their car? Any reason why I didn't see any cars have this? is it because the EU plates represent the country?

Just a curious question
It's from the Vienna Convention on Road Traffic of 1968.

Some countries are more active in policing it.
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Re: CH sticker on back of car

It's a legal requirement to have it when driving abroad. Germans don't really care about it, but I heard Italians would gladly issue a fine to you without it. Even if they perfectly recognize the country from your plates without it anyway
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Re: CH sticker on back of car

In the olden days the 'CH' plate was very large, and when I first visited Bern aged 12, I couldn't understand why there were so many cars from Chile here! To answer the OPs question: recently all the EU cars have the national flag in the number plate, and are excused a country plaque in the EU. All other cars should have the country sticker on the body work ('CH' not stuck on the glass, how anal can you get?) and note the smaller stickers are only permitted for motor cycles.
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The Italian border guards know the rules and will send you back to buy one .....
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Re: CH sticker on back of car

european cars normally have the country code on the number plate. swiss plates don't. although they do have a big swiss flag which you would think would suffice but apparently not.

i once got stopped at a smaller italian border and told by the 'chief' of the border guards that my 'small' CH sticker was for motorbikes and not cars. he said he liked to talk so wanted to check all my docs. i told him i liked to talk also and practice my italian and maybe we could chat together. i then told him it wasn't my car (wife's) and he looked upset and told me to get lost.

i mean really? doesn't he have anything better to do? at least 80% of people here use the small stickers. never had another problem.
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All other cars should have the country sticker on the body work ('CH' not stuck on the glass, how anal can you get?) and note the smaller stickers are only permitted for motor cycles.
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I've been pulled over in Austria for not having the correct sticker. The car I was driving had a CH sign, of the correct size, but it was Chrome, on a dark blue car.

It was on a rally, and the (Austrian) car behind us stopped and gave the plod an earful, so he let us off with a warning.
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Re: CH sticker on back of car

Hmmm, I don't even know if I have a CH on mine.

Ages ago - when I spent all my free minutes in the Netherlands - I had a NL sticker on the back of my car. A police-man in Zurich told me I must either have the CH AND the NL or only the CH or none at all.

He didn't fine me though. Those were the days

All the EU cars have their country on the number plates so there's really no point in adding an extra one, is there.
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To answer the OPs question: recently all the EU cars have the national flag in the number plate, and are excused a country plaque in the EU. All other cars should have the country sticker on the body work ('CH' not stuck on the glass, how anal can you get?) and note the smaller stickers are only permitted for motor cycles.
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According to the Vienna convention (which was already mentioned and linked) the sticker must be on the same ground as the license plate. And no, motorcycles need the same size as for cars. (except in 3-letter countries, where the motorcycle sticker can have the same size as the 2-letter car sticker)

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european cars normally have the country code on the number plate. swiss plates don't. although they do have a big swiss flag which you would think would suffice but apparently not.
The Vienna convention specifies in Annex 3 how a license plate has to look so that no sticker is needed. Or how the sticker has to look like. It is all formal. Sticker must be white, oval, 17.5 cm wide, 11.5 cm high (for 2-letter countries and motorcycles), letters black, at least 8 cm high, and 1 cm thick. 1-Letter countries can turn the sticker 90 degrees (same size as 2-letter countries and motorcycles).
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Hmmm, I don't even know if I have a CH on mine.

Ages ago - when I spent all my free minutes in the Netherlands - I had a NL sticker on the back of my car. A police-man in Zurich told me I must either have the CH AND the NL or only the CH or none at all.

He didn't fine me though. Those were the days
No need for a sticker if you do not drive the car aboard.

I wonder on what ground he would have fined you. Properly the reason you got no fine because he couldn't find it either
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All the EU cars have their country on the number plates so there's really no point in adding an extra one, is there.
UK cars don't need to have the GB on the number plate. for now at least its part of EU. many do, and some narrow minded people insist on the nonconforming welsh, english or scottish versions.
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No need for a sticker if you do not drive the car aboard.

I wonder on what ground he would have fined you. Properly the reason you got no fine because he couldn't find it either
For having the wrong (NL) sticker on it without having the Swiss one. That's what he said.
As I wrote in the other post: Both, none or the correct one only.
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For having the wrong (NL) sticker on it without having the Swiss one. That's what he said.
As I wrote in the other post: Both, none or the correct one only.
The problem is: I do not know any Swiss law which forbids the incorrect one. Also Swiss law does not mandate that foreign cars need a sticker (The Federal Council explicitly said it is not an issue.)

Neither Art. 97 and 99 SVG https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...index.html#a97, nor Art. 143 VZV https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...ndex.html#a143 is suitable to hand out a fine. non suprisengly neither any thing from the OBV https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...ndex.html#app1

Oh.. I see, I found it:

Art. 45 Abs 3 VTS https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...index.html#a45
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and then Art. 219 VTS https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...ndex.html#a219
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Issue. As Art. 45 Abs. 3 VTS is not mentioned in the OBV, it will go to a judge == high fine plus stupid court fees
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UK cars don't need to have the GB on the number plate. for now at least its part of EU. many do, and some narrow minded people insist on the nonconforming welsh, english or scottish versions.
lol...I know plenty of Scots who ran to get the Sco with St Andrews flag when that plate came out (was it around 2000?) apparently the production didn't last long. Prior to that most Scots coming to Europe used to place a ruddy great big St Andrews or Lion Rampant sticker on the back...next to either the SCOTLAND or ALBA stickers just to help the Europeans understand they were not English. One time many years ago we were in Malaga, badly parked waiting for someone to run into a shop, PC plod came along..."you Ingliish, you always...oh, you Scotiiish! ok pleese not stay long"


talking of non conformist plates, there is also a Basque one, complete with little Basque flag.
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Re: CH sticker on back of car

Never had this sticker, never had a problem even though I was stopped multiples time in Italy.
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lol...I know plenty of Scots who ran to get the Sco with St Andrews flag when that plate came out (was it around 2000?) apparently the production didn't last long. Prior to that most Scots coming to Europe used to place a ruddy great big St Andrews or Lion Rampant sticker on the back...next to either the SCOTLAND or ALBA stickers just to help the Europeans understand they were not English. One time many years ago we were in Malaga, badly parked waiting for someone to run into a shop, PC plod came along..."you Ingliish, you always...oh, you Scotiiish! ok pleese not stay long"
number plates are not issued by the state in the UK. you just buy them yourself. you can still buy whatever you want. they tried to tighten things up a bit a few year ago but its still easy to order non conforming 'show' plates.
 




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