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I don't drive a car here 3 3.45%
I would like to drive a car, but feel unsafe 2 2.30%
I drive a car, but i would love english courses 1 1.15%
I drive a car and i'm fine 67 77.01%
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Old 09.08.2017, 11:06
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Hello! How do you feel about driving in Switzerland?

Hello Everyone! I'm a 28 Years old Swiss (native), currently living in Riehen BS.

I registered in this Forum because of the following News (in German):
http://www.20min.ch/schweiz/bern/sto...-Rage-10057982

The Article is basically a complaint about foreign people who are over-strained on how to drive on swiss roads.

I just wanted to find out: How are you driving? Do you feel safe and "master of the situation" ?

I know, this is mostly a tourist and now an expat thing, but i would love to get a feeling on how you see this. Do you feel educated here about driving rules?

Maybe there would be a demand for english courses in driving theory or something, i don't know?
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Re: Hello!

Welcome to the Forum "Witch Dance"

There is indeed a problem with foreigners not taking the time to discover the rules and laws of Switzerland.

It becomes dangerous when people ask this Forum "What do the curved lines mean, which I see painted on the road in the quiet parts of my town?" Amazingly this driver was here 18 months before he knew about the "Priority to traffic from the right side rule"

In the olden days the Strassenvekehrsamt gave drivers with new Swiss licenses a booklet explaining the major rules, sadly these are no longer available.
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Old 10.08.2017, 09:32
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Re: Hello!

Sbrinz, thanks!

That's exactly what i thought.. it's just dangerous.

I don't really see any offers on the Forum or on google for expats and/or tourists..?

Maybe an online course or some sort of offline teaching lesson would hit the nerve.. i don't know.. just thinking out loudly on starting something in that way! I guess that would help many people..

But then, the question would be: How to connect to tourists, especially Arabic ones, first time visitors etc.

Anyway, i'm up if someone needs to know something

Thanks for the welcoming
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Welcome to the Forum "Witch Dance"

There is indeed a problem with foreigners not taking the time to discover the rules and laws of Switzerland.

It becomes dangerous when people ask this Forum "What do the curved lines mean, which I see painted on the road in the quiet parts of my town?" Amazingly this driver was here 18 months before he knew about the "Priority to traffic from the right side rule"

In the olden days the Strassenvekehrsamt gave drivers with new Swiss licenses a booklet explaining the major rules, sadly these are no longer available.
To be brutally honest, I've driven here for around 2 years now. This was the one thing I wished someone told me, I was often bemused when a regular road would suddenly have another merge from the right...first time I slowed down out of habit and was amazed to see the car just drive out from the right hand side.

The rest, was all common sense and I've never not understood what's going on...I guess the bigger challenge was learning to look out for new types of hazard (trams for example)
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Re: Hello! How do you feel about driving in Switzerland?

People for whom the Swiss roads are to difficult better tear up their license and scrap their car.
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Old 10.08.2017, 17:22
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Re: Hello! How do you feel about driving in Switzerland?

31 years of riding motorcycles and driving cars here, I have never had a problem.

Ohio, on the other hand...

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Re: Hello! How do you feel about driving in Switzerland?

Stressed in the Swiss roads? Stressed in the Swiss roads?

I advise a trip to Naples, perhaps followed by a road trip through Bordeaux, ending in the 1 lane-2 way roads in Portugal. You'll want the roads of Switzerland quick enough.
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Re: Hello! How do you feel about driving in Switzerland?

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I just wanted to find out: How are you driving? Do you feel safe and "master of the situation" ?

I know, this is mostly a tourist and now an expat thing, but i would love to get a feeling on how you see this. Do you feel educated here about driving rules?
just read some threads on this forum about driving. but be warned: you might not dare to drive on the roads again when you learn about driving skills and knowledge of driving rules of expats
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Re: Hello! How do you feel about driving in Switzerland?

What is this automobile thing people are talking about in this thread?

Back to being serious, the worst driver I know is a valaisanne, not a foreigner, OP. The gas pedal seems to be fusioned to her heavy foot, rules shmules.

I am sorry we do not have a Valais drivers section, (yet).
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Old 10.08.2017, 17:30
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Re: Hello! How do you feel about driving in Switzerland?

After driving in Croatia, driving in switzerland is stress free.

the only thing that is really bothering me is the fact that people drive too slow on the left side on the motorway and they don't want to move.

one thing my brother-in-law commented yesterday, and he's here on vacation, is that no one stops prior to train crossing to check if the train is near by and the ramp didn't go down.
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Old 10.08.2017, 17:43
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Re: Hello! How do you feel about driving in Switzerland?

Been driving in Switzerland a looooong time. As well as many other places, I drive Bern-Riehen-Bern 1 to 2 times a month. Can't say I'd attribute anything specific to any grouping, just everybody is crazy some days and sane the next.

Noteworthy, however, is around the full moon and from 16:00 to 18:00 workdays...
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Old 10.08.2017, 18:13
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After driving in Croatia, driving in switzerland is stress free.

the only thing that is really bothering me is the fact that people drive too slow on the left side on the motorway and they don't want to move.

one thing my brother-in-law commented yesterday, and he's here on vacation, is that no one stops prior to train crossing to check if the train is near by and the ramp didn't go down.
Left-lane/middle-lane hogging is not only a Swiss disease, seen it plenty in the UK, Italy, Germany etc too.
Gated level crossings are pretty much 100% reliable here, we have one at the end of our road and we drive over it several times a day without checking. Then again, I know the train schedule .
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one thing my brother-in-law commented yesterday, and he's here on vacation, is that no one stops prior to train crossing to check if the train is near by and the ramp didn't go down.
That would cause huge delays !

I think their are more than adequate security measures in place to avoid the train passing if the barriers are up.

Where their are no barriers their is also adequate warning, as they say, you can take a horse to water but you can't make it drink !
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Re: Hello! How do you feel about driving in Switzerland?

Been driving in and around Switzerland for 5 years. Comparing it to driving in the U.K. Or USA then it's a doddle. The only thing that annoys me are the Dutch, and English tourists who seem to be scared of the mountain roads I travel frequently. They regularly do 20-35km/h when everyone else is trying to do 60-80. They don't seem to realise the problem they cause either.
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They regularly do 20-35km/h when everyone else is trying to do 60-80. They don't seem to realise the problem they cause either.
Ach gwan! They only do 20-35 in the corners... when it's straight they speed up again.
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Been driving in and around Switzerland for 5 years. Comparing it to driving in the U.K. Or USA then it's a doddle. The only thing that annoys me are the Dutch, and English tourists who seem to be scared of the mountain roads I travel frequently. They regularly do 20-35km/h when everyone else is trying to do 60-80. They don't seem to realise the problem they cause either.
Could be because their 1200CC is so loaded with their own food that they simply can't do faster on steep roads.
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Been driving in Switzerland a looooong time. As well as many other places, I drive Bern-Riehen-Bern 1 to 2 times a month. Can't say I'd attribute anything specific to any grouping, just everybody is crazy some days and sane the next.

Noteworthy, however, is around the full moon and from 16:00 to 18:00 workdays...
And the Sunday drivers! I had to painfully notice last week that they still exist.

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Been driving in and around Switzerland for 5 years. Comparing it to driving in the U.K. Or USA then it's a doddle. The only thing that annoys me are the Dutch, and English tourists who seem to be scared of the mountain roads I travel frequently. They regularly do 20-35km/h when everyone else is trying to do 60-80. They don't seem to realise the problem they cause either.
I understand that the Dutch and the English are nervous on some of our smaller mountain roads. No reason to stress them out even more by pushing them. Okay, if they have an AI licence-plate they got a problem

The article talked about them parking on the road and driving in the middle - no excuse for that, I don't know of any country where that is allowed. Not to mention that even a minor intelligent person should realize that driving in the middle is NOT a good idea on a narrow road with tight cuves, neither is parking the car on it.
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Could be because their 1200CC is so loaded with their own food that they simply can't do faster on steep roads.
I wouldn't like to drive 30kilos of spuds faster and riskier either, I like them too much.
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Do you feel safe and "master of the situation" ?


Other than tailgating - which Swiss drivers adore and I guess it goes hand in hand with the Swiss not being able to queue (properly), I have no complaints...
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Re: Hello! How do you feel about driving in Switzerland?

I drove for 23 years in the UK and now 28 year in Switzerland. I have driven in many European countries, coast to coast USA, in Australia and Africa. I commuted daily into central London at one time.

I would say that Zürich is one of the least forgiving places to drive, especially with lost Germans, narrow lanes and people obviously too early for their appointments waiting for light to go red, rather than charging through them.

In all, driving here is no problem, just different - as is the UK, France, Germany, Netherlands etc. etc.

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