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Germany’s ‘Diesel Fear’ Leaves $5 Billion in Used Cars Gathering Dust

Would you buy an EURO-5 Diesel car second hand?

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If they lower the prices enough my next car wil be a from Germany imported Euro-5
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Re: Germany’s ‘Diesel Fear’ Leaves $5 Billion in Used Cars Gathering Dust

they can just export the cars to countries with less strict emission rules.

still, amazing that the automobile industry can get away with almost everything.
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Re: Germany’s ‘Diesel Fear’ Leaves $5 Billion in Used Cars Gathering Dust

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they can just export the cars to countries with less strict emission rules.

still, amazing that the automobile industry can get away with almost everything.
It already happens. In the Caucusus (Georgia) I saw loads of Japanese SUVs, apparently they are exported secondhand after a few years on the road for failing the road test (exact explanation not guaranteed).
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It already happens. In the Caucusus (Georgia) I saw loads of Japanese SUVs, apparently they are exported secondhand after a few years on the road for failing the road test (exact explanation not guaranteed).
no, they are "exported"
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Old 25.08.2017, 12:31
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It already happens. In the Caucusus (Georgia) I saw loads of Japanese SUVs, apparently they are exported secondhand after a few years on the road for failing the road test (exact explanation not guaranteed).
Japanese cars have such strict inspection rules thats it's not really viable to keep a car after 5 years, if not just 3 years.
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Old 25.08.2017, 12:35
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Japanese cars have such strict inspection rules thats it's not really viable to keep a car after 5 years, if not just 3 years.
I wonder if this is done deliberately to help support the motor industry?
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I wonder if this is done deliberately to help support the motor industry?
For sure it is.
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Re: Germany’s ‘Diesel Fear’ Leaves $5 Billion in Used Cars Gathering Dust

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There are some amazing deals being offered on new diesels to try and get them moving, which may have a negative knock-on effect on the second hand market.

Friend of mine in the UK went into his local Audi dealer recently, thinking to upgrade his oldish A5 to a slightly newer model, but walked out with brand new pre-built specced up A7 diesel (the 285bhp version) for effectively not much more than he was looking at for a 2-y-o A5 . Came over in it recently and it's verrr nice indeed. Seems the factory must have built an excess for specific markets to even out a drop in sales and keep the factory at 100%.
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no, they are "exported"
Well, maybe. But they are pretty stupid thieves coz the driving wheel is on the wrong side of the SUV. Driving in Georgia is already enough of a nightmare with potholes, wandering cows and Georgian drivers.
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Well, maybe. But they are pretty stupid thieves coz the driving wheel is on the wrong side of the SUV. Driving in Georgia is already enough of a nightmare with potholes, wandering cows and Georgian drivers.
Huh? Georgia is a country where people drive the right side of the road.
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Yes - the point being that Japan isn't.
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Yes, but Japanese drive on the left, so vehicles from Japan will have the steering wheel on the wrong side.

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Yes - the point being that Japan isn't.
Ah, didn't get that he was joking about those SUV's actually being "exported" from Japan.
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Re: Germany’s ‘Diesel Fear’ Leaves $5 Billion in Used Cars Gathering Dust

Not just Georgia, most of the central Asia Countries are full of Japanese cars, but it's true, Georgians drivers are the craziest. And you have to love their cute bus and taxi drivers who smoke behind the wheel all the time.
Btw, I found where all the pre 80^'s Audi cars are, in Tajikistan. Mercs are still in Turkey, but I don't know what happened to BMWs, maybe they are in Moldavia?
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Re: Germany’s ‘Diesel Fear’ Leaves $5 Billion in Used Cars Gathering Dust

And I thought all the old Western Europe cars end up in Poland, where in 2016 the average age of imported cars reached 12 years, hitting the records established before year 2000.
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Yes, but Japanese drive on the left, so vehicles from Japan will have the steering wheel on the wrong side.

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Such niceties don't bother anybody in these sort of countries
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Re: Germany’s ‘Diesel Fear’ Leaves $5 Billion in Used Cars Gathering Dust

Has anyone stumbled across the Swiss position on EURO5/EURO6 diesel vehicles, recently they banned the import of Porsche Cayenne Diesels. Any risk of venturing to import a car only to have it blacklisted a few months later?
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Has anyone stumbled across the Swiss position on EURO5/EURO6 diesel vehicles, recently they banned the import of Porsche Cayenne Diesels. Any risk of venturing to import a car only to have it blacklisted a few months later?
Once it's registered its OK, don't pay very much is your insurance.
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It already happens. In the Caucusus (Georgia) I saw loads of Japanese SUVs, apparently they are exported secondhand after a few years on the road for failing the road test (exact explanation not guaranteed).
I used to work in the auto business in the US and I can confirm this was once practice. The inspection is called "shaken" in English I believe, and it is designed to be ridiculous in order to keep a steady flow of new cars in the populace and drive industry.
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