Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Help & tips > Transportation/driving  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03.07.2008, 12:56
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Montreux
Posts: 99
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 35 Times in 26 Posts
renmaris has no particular reputation at present
Car Repairs

My girlfriend accidentally dinged the door of another car at a gas station a couple of days ago. The other car was a rental and the driver understandably wanted us to take responsibility. We were happy to do so and exchanged phone numbers. He tells us that the rental car company want CHF 450 to repair the door ding!! Being new here we have no idea - in the USA this could be fixed by an expert for less than $100.

Any ideas of what is a fair price? It is a normal size door ding (i.e. tiny)

Thanks
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03.07.2008, 13:12
AbFab's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Zürich
Posts: 8,452
Groaned at 358 Times in 246 Posts
Thanked 12,566 Times in 4,283 Posts
AbFab has a reputation beyond reputeAbFab has a reputation beyond reputeAbFab has a reputation beyond reputeAbFab has a reputation beyond reputeAbFab has a reputation beyond reputeAbFab has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Car Repairs

The make of car might help a bit here...
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03.07.2008, 13:39
grumpygrapefruit's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NL, UK & sometimes ZH
Posts: 6,380
Groaned at 38 Times in 37 Posts
Thanked 17,534 Times in 4,492 Posts
grumpygrapefruit has a reputation beyond reputegrumpygrapefruit has a reputation beyond reputegrumpygrapefruit has a reputation beyond reputegrumpygrapefruit has a reputation beyond reputegrumpygrapefruit has a reputation beyond reputegrumpygrapefruit has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Car Repairs

Quote:
View Post
The make of car might help a bit here...
and I would have thought you should be dealing with the car hire company direct. I'm not accusing anybody but the guy who hired the car could be telling a porky about the cost...

(just realised your American, Porky = Pork Pie - meaning a little lie in Olde English)
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03.07.2008, 13:51
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Car Repairs

...or that the hire company didn't notice, or it was covered on his CDW...

Anyway we need to know the car-make. For if it's a Skoda, we need to decide whether the ding makes it beyond-economic-repair....

dave


Quote:
View Post
and I would have thought you should be dealing with the car hire company direct. I'm not accusing anybody but the guy who hired the car could be telling a porky about the cost...

(just realised your American, Porky = Pork Pie - meaning a little lie in Olde English)

Last edited by DaveA; 03.07.2008 at 14:02.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank for this useful post:
  #5  
Old 03.07.2008, 14:41
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Montreux
Posts: 99
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 35 Times in 26 Posts
renmaris has no particular reputation at present
Re: Car Repairs

Thanks guys - agree it is important to note it was a Fiat Panda. And yes, I do intend to deal direct with the car rental company but want to be prepared in case they're also telling porkies.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04.07.2008, 14:42
FriendlyKiwi's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Shoppinzentrum
Posts: 1,782
Groaned at 19 Times in 15 Posts
Thanked 914 Times in 551 Posts
FriendlyKiwi has a reputation beyond reputeFriendlyKiwi has a reputation beyond reputeFriendlyKiwi has a reputation beyond reputeFriendlyKiwi has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Car Repairs

Quote:
View Post
Thanks guys - agree it is important to note it was a Fiat Panda.
Wow, you must have done a lot of damage.

The 450.- is obviously replacing the whole vehicle. With a full gas tank.

He's still ripping you off - Fiat Panda's are not worth nowhere near that figure .
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04.07.2008, 14:48
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Car Repairs

Quote:
View Post
Wow, you must have done a lot of damage.

The 450.- is obviously replacing the whole vehicle. With a full gas tank.

He's still ripping you off - Fiat Panda's are not worth nowhere near that figure .
Depends if it's got a full tank of petrol...

Did you notice the condition of the rest of the car? He could have had a prang (his fault) and your minor door ding was a happy occurrence which let him off the hook from his major prang.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05.07.2008, 21:17
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: zurich
Posts: 74
Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 17 Times in 11 Posts
hoover has become a little unpopularhoover has become a little unpopular
Re: Car Repairs

Have you signed accident report and agreed it's your fault ? if so - they can get costs they pay- direct invoice from garage should be provided as a proof .. problem is they pay anything as it's your money.

good advise - never agree on 'it was my fault' as it's insurance and police work to agree on that . You just say what happened.

and 'ding' on doors == sanding , fixing and re-painting entire element - 450chf is good price imho.

cheers
h.

ps. if you did not sign ... ;-)
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06.07.2008, 18:23
Nathu's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Zürich
Posts: 4,521
Groaned at 18 Times in 16 Posts
Thanked 2,208 Times in 1,248 Posts
Nathu has a reputation beyond reputeNathu has a reputation beyond reputeNathu has a reputation beyond reputeNathu has a reputation beyond reputeNathu has a reputation beyond reputeNathu has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Car Repairs

Quote:
View Post
Have you signed accident report and agreed it's your fault ? if so - they can get costs they pay- direct invoice from garage should be provided as a proof .. problem is they pay anything as it's your money.
That's a bit off-topic by now, but: Neither the police nor the European accident protocol (that every driver should have in the glove compartment, in my opinion) allocate guilt on-site. They write down the sequence of events and that's it.

As for the 450 Fr., I wouldn't pay before I see the bill, but then you have to. Garages are expensive here and I've had dings repaired for more. It could only be less if it's only a paint job.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06.07.2008, 18:50
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: zurich
Posts: 74
Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 17 Times in 11 Posts
hoover has become a little unpopularhoover has become a little unpopular
Re: Car Repairs

off topic:

"Neither the police nor the European accident protocol"

I believe that at back side of Unfallprotocol/accident protocol there is statment in regards that one party agree to take responsibilty for accident . If you sign it - it's enough for insurance reasons even not to call police to write down report - as someone commited himself/herself to be responsible for demages made.

cheers
h.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 07.07.2008, 02:53
Nathu's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Zürich
Posts: 4,521
Groaned at 18 Times in 16 Posts
Thanked 2,208 Times in 1,248 Posts
Nathu has a reputation beyond reputeNathu has a reputation beyond reputeNathu has a reputation beyond reputeNathu has a reputation beyond reputeNathu has a reputation beyond reputeNathu has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Car Repairs

It doesn't have a backside, would be messy with the carbon copies

In the top left corner of the sheet, the German version states: "Unfallprotokol – Keine Schuldanerkennung, sondern eine Wiedergabe des Unfallhergangs zur schnelleren Schadenregulierung". Which rough translates to: "No admission of guilt, but a record of the sequence of events for a faster regulation of the damage."
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 07.11.2008, 09:46
Bubugala's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: ZH
Posts: 40
Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post
Thanked 14 Times in 8 Posts
Bubugala has earned some respectBubugala has earned some respect
Re: Car Repairs

Got scratches at the back bumper (right corner). I went to a garage this morning to see what can be done. The man quoted me an amount of CHF700, saying it need 'Lackierung' and put it back. This garage is also a dealer for Nissan while our car is Toyota. My question: will it make a difference in prices if the garage is a dealer of brand other than ours? (well, the next toyota garage is not that close) Anyone has any thoughts?

Thanks,
gala
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07.11.2008, 10:02
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: zürich
Posts: 746
Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post
Thanked 74 Times in 42 Posts
Diem is considered knowledgeableDiem is considered knowledgeableDiem is considered knowledgeable
Re: Car Repairs

Quote:
View Post
My question: will it make a difference in prices if the garage is a dealer of brand other than ours? (well, the next toyota garage is not that close) Anyone has any thoughts?
Hi Gala,

It doesn't make any difference at all. Paint is paint. It also doesn't matter what make your car is (despite questions about that earlier in this thread.)

What important for the quote is the following:
- Type of paint finish your car has (Metallic, Pearl, Xirallic, etc)
- Size of the damaged area
- Location of the damage
- Depth of the scratches (if the scratches are only in the top coat of paint then they can be polished out)
- Hourly labour rate of the bodyshop

All of these points influence the cost, so it makes sense for you to shop around. Apparently, there are also unscrupulous people in the motor industry (who would have believed it) who might be more interested in their profit margin than your wallet.

Also keep in mind that professional repair shops will do a good job and you won't be able to see the difference after it's been repainted. However, "Fred in the shed" with his one-man-band all-jobs-considered garage may not have the equipment, skill or experience to carry out a pro job.

Cheers
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Diem for this useful post:
  #14  
Old 07.11.2008, 10:08
FriendlyKiwi's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Shoppinzentrum
Posts: 1,782
Groaned at 19 Times in 15 Posts
Thanked 914 Times in 551 Posts
FriendlyKiwi has a reputation beyond reputeFriendlyKiwi has a reputation beyond reputeFriendlyKiwi has a reputation beyond reputeFriendlyKiwi has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Car Repairs

700 CHF to remove, repaint, and refit the bumper is about right.

Remember: any panel damage on a car normaly requires repainting of the entire panel.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank FriendlyKiwi for this useful post:
  #15  
Old 07.11.2008, 10:26
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Zurich
Posts: 59
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts
Phillips has no particular reputation at present
Re: Car Repairs

I have a new Golf. When I bought it for some reason VW do not paint the whole back bumper, so I decided after seeing on another car that I would get it painted. Cost to remove, paint and re attach 350.-chuffs...which I didnt think was that expensive.
Answer to the other question.
These boys can take most small dents out without repainting or sanding, I think up to 80mm. And are very quick with it.
http://www.fix-a-ding.ch/6.0.html

Regards

Paul
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
autos, cars, garages, repairs




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Appliance repairs abtronic Other/general 6 23.02.2011 12:15
DVD / TV / Electrical repairs pat TV/internet/telephone 12 11.01.2010 12:40
Where to get Snowboard Repaired in Zurich? Simon Sports / Fitness / Beauty / Wellness 11 15.12.2009 15:54
repairs/ flat refurbishment PlantHead Housing in general 18 13.05.2009 23:09
Jewellery repairs Termite Other/general 1 26.06.2007 10:10


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 18:15.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0